Palin power

Sarah Palin is coming to Hamilton.

The Republican who shook up the 2008 U.S. election when she was picked to be John McCain's vice-presidential candidate will be in Hamilton on April 15 for a fundraiser for two hospitals. Tickets are expected to be $200 a plate.

 Recognizing that many people can't afford anything like that admission, would you go see Palin speak if you could afford it? Why, or why not?

Comments

[karen]

CM said "Why do Hamiltonians dislike Sarah Palin?"

Maybe because the ones that are actually thinking realize Palin is like a really fancy gift you get for Christmas: there's shiny wrapping and a big bow, but when you open the box it is completely empty.

[karen]

John from BC said "As a casual reader of the Spec, I'm concerned for the mental health of Hamiltonians. Lately, the vitriolic letters regarding Sara Palin's visit seem to confirm that something may be wrong in Hamilton..."

If mental health is your concern, Sarah Palin would absolutely be an appropriate choice for a speaker, and a case study as well.

PS, if she ever gets up there to do the speech, please keep her. Thanks!

The USA

[Bobby]

Instead of listening to Faux News, reading Palin's ghostwritten (RAM actually) Facebook page - you should get off your butt and actually research her record - but then that would actually mean you have half a brain and that's giving you credit for far too much.

Palin while running for VP spoke that she would be the advocate for Special Needs but neglected to inform the people of the U.S. that in FACT she reduced funding in AK for specially those with special needs -- drastically reduced.

This is priceless. I love debating leftists, who manage to be gullible dupes, running on pure emotional energy, despite most of their activities being focused on their moral preening.

Look, even target zero of Insane Leftism, The Daily Kos, acknowledges that Governor Palin increased funding for special needs kids.

"A commenter (Jim Syar) accused Sarah Palin of reducing the special education budget by 62%. That is false. The special education budget actually increased by nearly 12%, as explained below.

As Syar correctly notes, the Alaska 2007 budget for special education was $8,265,300. But that included $5,352,000 for the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy.

In the 2009 budgetary document to which Syar links, astute observers will note that there is no mention of the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. Instead, you have to look elsewhere. And guess what: There is now a specific document providing $6,082,100 for the Alaska Challenge Youth Academy. http://www.gov.state.ak.us/... So combined with the $3,156,000 that Syar notes, the total is $9,238,100. A nearly 12% INCREASE, not a 62% decrease."

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/4/144547/5612/206/586621

[Diane]

Oh Bobby, Bobby.

You speak as if you believe you have entitlement to speak for all Canadians, more specifically all in Hamilton. Let me tell you - YOU DON'T.

If given the opportunity - Palin will not be stepping foot on Canadian soil - EVER.

Instead of listening to Faux News, reading Palin's ghostwritten (RAM actually) Facebook page - you should get off your butt and actually research her record - but then that would actually mean you have half a brain and that's giving you credit for far too much.

Palin while running for VP spoke that she would be the advocate for Special Needs but neglected to inform the people of the U.S. that in FACT she reduced funding in AK for specially those with special needs -- drastically reduced.

While Governor, she neglected to address the issues of healthcare and homecare for the elderly of the state. On her watch, 227 seniors passed away while awaiting assessment for their needs. She had plugged in one of her many 'friends' into a position for which they were not qualified to the point of totally being over his head. She ignored the issue. There are a number of law suits pending against her and the state for deaths of these people. Those millions she has now - may well be gone when these cases reach Court.

The simple things she spewed ad nauseam were so easy to prove were lies. The pipeline - she implied it was built. Chances are with the issues even before she left office - it will never happen. Ground was never even broke when she spewed it.

There is not enough space on this site to recite everything as the list is far, far too long. It is very each to research her record and truthfully, it's disgusting.

As an area business owner, we have for a number of years, contracted with Carmen's for approximately 5 to 6 functions per year. No longer. My corporation has severed it ties.

[C. Miszuk]

Why do Hamiltonians dislike Sarah Palin?

Is it because she put herself through university without the help of government? Is it because she married a union man, had five children, one of which found herself pregnant at the age of 18, (I'm sure there is not one Hamiltonian that did that)? Was it because she chose not to abort a Down Syndrome child? Or is it because Hamiltonians get all their information from CNNBS, NBCBS, or CBCBS?

Sarah Palin has done what all of you bloggers will never do and that is instead of just talking she got involved with the PTA, with her City Hall, with her State, with her Country. She accomplished more in two years as Governor than Bill Clinton accomplished in eight years. She is not Slick Willy or Obama the Messiah, nor is she an elitist -- she is Sarah Palin.

Carman's is a business. They employee people, pay taxes, and contribute more to Hamilton charities than most business or people.

I will be buying a table for the Palin event, to support a business like Carman's and hope to learn something from Sarah Palin.

I will not contribute to any organization that can not stand up for what is right or what is wrong as they probably can not make good decisionas on how to use donated money.

I am not an academic, but I do know right from wrong and it is very wrong to treat anyone as Sarah Palin and Carman's is being treated.

CM

[In Ohio]

Palin is the new Micheal Jackson (in his later years when he needed/wanted more money)

It's clear that the company who booked her was seeking publicity and could care less about the impact on the charities involved. [they were right to withdraw, a local alcoholism recovery charity here was picked to be the benificiary of a pub crawl. They also withdrew saying that could not in good concience accept money from a pub crawl]

It is VERY interesting that the new charity is headed by the brother of the company's founder and has a very POOR track record of providing funds for the children they supposedly support. I guess no other charity wanted to risk being drug into the company's press seeking.

As for Palin herself? They could be giving funds to a kill the seals program, her agents are getting the $200k for 30 minutes, she'll get her cut. My guess is that her speaker's agency requires her to earn a certain number of dollars per year to stay with them. Given her comittments for loggging and bowling conventions, I'm guessing she's not in quite the demand they would like.

The real question is, what charities will risk booking her in the future if it could bring down international critism? Will we see Palin doing mall openings next to meet her speeking quota?

[Donald J. Lester]

Ricko
“I have read it. Great book.
Perhaps the Posters and Vigilantes who forced Carmen's hands should read it as well. It may help them to differentiate between real intent and perceived intent.”

I think you missed the point rather that calling people “
Nutbars, leftists become blind with rage.
one of you spewing garbage ...were flat out wrong and ignorant.”

Perhaps you should respond with. I understand your position but it was not Carmon’s intention to upset anyone. From your posts you seam to take the approcah that you are the only god that is in the know and everyone who disagrees with you are ignorant. As an over view, the manner that you have responded, it seams to me that it has only fueled the elements that have been equeated with Palin.

Moreover the issue here has nothing to do with whether you are, Conservative or liberal to the core, it has to do with the issue. What most are saying is that they want their all funds collected to go to charities and at a minimum to stay in the country. Therefore my overall review would suggest that you re-read, “How To Win Freinds and Influence People.”

[John Perry]

Hamilton needs a gigantic valium.

As a casual reader of the Spec, I'm concerned for the mental health of Hamiltonians. Lately, the vitriolic letters regarding Sara Palin's visit seem to confirm that something may be wrong in Hamilton, and it is especially troubling at this time of year. Ever hear the phrase "peace on earth" ?

Since Bill Clinton also spoke in Hamilton and was reportedly well received, apparently lying and adultery more aptly reflect Hamilton values. Clinton forced banks to make risky loans (forgotten Fanny Mae and Freddy Mack already ?), as part of his grand social experiment to ensure those who couldn't afford a house could have one. Therefore, he was singularly more responsible than anyone else for the US sub-prime mortgage debacle which caused the current world economic meltdown. Tough act to follow. Since Hamilton seems to be suffering economically as a direct result of Clinton's actions, shouldn't the villagers be out burning his effigy ? Perhaps symbolically they could throw his effigy into an idle coke oven. It would seem that Sara Palin's type of politics is more suitable to benefitting Hamilton industries, and therefore Hamiltonians, and specifically coming to visit for a charity. Why is there is such a high level of disrespect for her in Steelton ?? I haven't really seen how anything she has actually done as Governor of Alaska has had any negative effect on the day to day lives of Canadians, and she isn't even in Canadian politics. What would you do if Gilles Duceppe ever visits Hamilton (a guy actually trying to destroy Canada) ?

Chill out. Is it possible to give Hamiltonians a dose of valium with their H1N1 vaccine ?

Peace Out
John from BC

[Jordan Hill]

Ms. Palin quit her Hawaii holidays because someone discovered that she took a magic marker to her sun cap and blacked out John McCain's name on the front. I hope Carmen's does a wordrobe check so she does't cancel at the last minute over her clothing selection.

[Ricko]

HURRAY!!!!! The "bite my nose off to spite may face" left won! GOOD FOR YOU!

So typical of you all for standing up against principles you vilify in your own minds.

HHS would have willingly received the much needed cash raised from this PRIVATE event; but no more, due to the "backlash" from American anti Palin spin doctors, and you know it all red faced idiots who presupposed the two entities were tied in some way.

You idiots changed nothing, except of course, you ripped $100 k plus from Hamilton's health care system.

Good for you!

[Mary Louise]

No need to apologize, Ed2. Carmen's may be the organizer of this misguided event, but the hospitals have freely chosen to associate themselves with it, and the President of HHS has defended it in the press. Their donors have every right to question their decision to associate themselves with someone who stands for limited access to healthcare, particularly for women.

[Ed2]

Thank you Ricko, I should have looked into it deeper than from one source.

I'll hold my rhetoric for a time when an event under the assumed circumstances surfaces, and then I won't have to see my face beet red from embarrassment in the mirror.

Sorry to all.

[Jay T.]

Jack Streniuk

I have never, in my life, witnessed such a disconnected, idiotic and irrational decision.

The hospitals, centers and foundations have nothing to do with this event, other than to receive a wonderful amount to help their causes.

I truly feel sorry for humankind if there are people like you in this world, Jack.

It is clear after reading the letter to the editor today that the organizers intend for this event to be a good thing. You can argue with the who's, what's and where's all you like, but in the end the needy will get more than they had before, unless the Jack Streniuk's of the world take over.

As long as the charities prevail that, to me, is all that matters. I suggest that you read A3 in today’s paper as it talks about how charities today are suffering more than ever.

Whether you think you are or are not honouring your mother's memory just realize that you are destroying hope for future generations.

[Jordan Hill]

"So Mr. Mercanti believes that only "shallow-minded" people oppose the limited access to healthcare that Sarah Palin stands for, yet he admits she was only chosen for her dubious celebrity status. That's some deep thinkin' there, Mercanti."

So, is someone shallow minded if they disagree with your views, Mr. Mercanti?

[Ricko]

Ed2, Carmen's IS running this event separate and independent of ANY charity or organization. That is clearly stated from Peter's post.

It was their choice to donate the proceeds to the two facilities.

This whole thing has been blown out of proportion by blogjackers spinning yarns and stories for nothing more than political propaganda.

[Ed2]

As per Jimbo's comment;
I admire that you give directly to a charity and have an active and productive life. I do as well and do not live on a computer or let it rule my life.

I believe the comments are so stirring because 'we' as taxpayers and citizens, have no say in the wasted money of Fundraisers.

If this were advertised as a complete and separate entity away from organizations, and then donate any or a predicted amount of proceeds to a charity or hospitals then we could live with it.

I personally do not like the lineup of names controlling this events as their reputations are far from being held as a model of citizenry.

Sara's politics aside, we should not be the bearer of her profit without say or input.

Society donates their earnings to Hollywood through low grade entertainment but that is by choice and this event should be the same.

[Jimbo]

I cant believe that this forum is still open and that you people are still commenting on this. I have to say that many of you people have WAYYYYY too much time on your hands. Seriously, get a life and do something better with your time. I was a casual observer up until now, merely skimming through the blog, but this hysteria has driven me to comment.

Clearly many of you are either unemployed or you are wasting your company's time. Perhaps instead of looking up everything about Sarah Palin you should channel your energy
by volunteering for a hospital, if you care so much about health care.

I'm sorry to say, but you have all wasted so much human energy on this topic, energy that could have been put to better use by actually doing something of value for society. 140 comments. Wow.

You sit behind your precious little computers in your corner office or in your bedroom and complain about health care, about society, about this, about that. You quote this article. You look up that article. That is absolutely ridiculous! You people are pathetic.

People like you are the exact reason why the world is so messed up and backwards. Get off your couch and do something for society for a change.

I loathe people who are critics about everything under the sun yet they add absolutely no value to the world around us.

Go ahead, bash me, criticize me, say how ignorant I am. Call me this. Call me that. I really don't care. I will never know!

Your efforts will be in vain, because to be quite honest, I'm not going to come back and check this blog. I'm going to go on living my life. I'm going to go back to work tomorrow, take my kids to hockey, and make my annual donation to the Salvation Army.

I'm going to move on with my life, and I strongly suggest that all of you do the exact same thing.

Merry Christmas

[Jordan Hill]

This is all about Carmen's and Palin and the search for money. It is not about the two hospitals nor health care. The hospitals are being used to help the two others get rich.

[DM]

I cannot believe how poorly some people are taking this announcement, never mind ignoring the facts surrounding it. Actually cutting off donations to the Canadian Cancer Society because you do not approve of a speaker that will clearly not be speaking about her stance on the subject is absolutely ridiculous. You should be ashamed of yourself for taking away the dollars they count on to help find a cure for this awful disease because of your ignorance.

[Jordan Hill]

It's not a political event? Is it celebrity event? Why not ask Paris Hilton or Brittney Spears, for example? Is it an intellectual/scholarly event? A motivation seminar? What exactly is it then, Misters Mercanti, Macaluso, and Concordia?

[Pete the common sense guy]

There once was a girl from Alaska, Sarah Palin... you betcha.

Noooo, she aint gonna say no to our loonies and toonies, you betcha.

Cause she needs the moolah, lots and lots of moolah, you betcha.

And when she's done yappin and gone back to Alaaaaaaska, she'll say 'gotcha '!

You betcha!

[Mary Louise]

So this isn't a political event. Palin wasn't chosen because of what she stands for, but because Mercanti, Macaluso, Concordia, and their pals want to bask in the presence of a celebrity for a couple of hours. But *we're* the shallow-minded ones. Riiiight.

[CG]

In the Hamilton Spectator today:
Criticism is coming from "shallow-minded people."
I don't fancy myself "shallow-minded". Maybe I am and just didn't realize it. I thought I was rather analytical, well-read, and open to new information. I try to be sure of facts and evaluate an opposing opinion on merit, rather than emotion.

Peter Mercanti: "This is not a political event."
Yes it is. Everything Mrs. Palin does is building a 2012 presidential campaign.
She's not an actress, athlete, scholar, or writer. She holds no political office, yet actively solicits donations to a Political Action Committee in her own name (SarahPAC) and a personal trust fund possibly worth $500,000, which was found to violate Alaska's ethics law, and for which there has been no public disclosure as required by Alaska law for transparency and accountablity in government.

Her publically-voiced beliefs are ideologically and diametrically opposed to the very premise of the this fundraiser.
Typically, when a rockstar fundraises for a good cause, they support it, rather than object to it!
She would be the obvious choice to lend voice and image to support government medical institutions in a socialist country? What?

"Inquiries have come from all over southern Ontario, Buffalo and as far away as British Columbia."
Come now. Someone is so enthusiastic about supporting hospitals in Ontario that they'll fly in from BC to attend a fundraiser? Really? My advice-that person should write a cheque for the entire amount they would spend on the trip and mail it to you as a donation for the benefit.
Mrs. Palin is one of the most controversial and riveting figures in American politics in this decade. Of course she'll draw a crowd. There's no question that people will buy tickets.
But isn't the intention to target an audience that would be likely to offer patronage in the form of a donation at some point during the evening? Your audience will be half morbid curiousity and half American evangelical Christians who believe Mrs. Palin to be the biblical Esther, predestined to lead North America into the End Times and the Second Coming.

"Mercanti suggested critics buy a Bible." Hmmm...
"These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."
Proverbs 6:16-19

“Qui tacet consenti’re vide’tur” - "Silence gives consent"
Pope Boniface VIII (1225-1303) Decretals (bk. V, 12, 43), taken from the Canon Law

"Silence, Madame, consents."
[1591 Lyly Endymion v iii.]
Lyly, J., Complete Works, ed. R. W. Bond (3 vols., Oxford, 1902).

Helen King says "if people read her new book they would get a different perspective on her."
"They're talking about and criticizing someone they don't even know."
To be fair, I don't know who Ms. King is. Perhaps she's personally acquainted with Mrs. Palin. But I suspect Ms. King is coming to the defense of someone she doesn't even know.
If she knew her, she would know that the comments here specifically about Palin have not been so much critical, but have identified facts and details that are objectively documentable and a matter of public record.
Reading the new book isn't going to change that. It's a plebian and adolescent monologue of blame. There are so many half-truths and transparent lies, one is mystified by how she expected not to be called out.
Ms. King, respectfully, I suggest that you do a bit of research and fact-finding on Mrs. Palin and her beliefs and actions, rather than resting on blind faith. Be sure that she is worthy of your support and your own credibility.

Palin's Base Appeal, Newsweek
"Sarah Palin herself can apparently never tire of contrasting her folksy provincialism with the pointy-headed intellectuals, and with those in the despised city of "Washington," where her supporters want—it would seem against her own better instincts—to move her. To hear the woman talk, you would imagine that populism was a magic formula that had never been tried before (though Continetti and his colleagues at the conservative Weekly Standard eagerly compare Palin to the raucous demagogue and onetime Klan-fan William Jennings Bryan: remember—they said it, not me).

Sarah Palin appears to have no testable core conviction except the belief (which none of her defenders denies that she holds, or at least has held and not yet repudiated) that the end of days and the Second Coming will occur in her lifetime. This completes the already strong case for allowing her to pass the rest of her natural life span as a private citizen."

http://www.newsweek.com/id/222794/page/1

[Pete the common sense guy]

There's only one way to describe this FIASCO and that is:

NO COMMON SENSE prevailed at the time when the organizers including Carmen's, opted to invite Sarah Palin.

If Carmen's wanted publicity; they probably got more then they bargained for and it aint all good that's for sure.

Whether our collective comments make a difference, only time will tell. But keep in mind that many corporations are already reviewing "other then Carmen's" venues for their next corporate functions.

Obviously, Carmen's is no longer 'THE' venue of choice, except for clowns of course.

[Jack Streniuk]

As planned, I cancelled the auto-debit to the Canadian Cancer Society this morning. I will not have any part, not one penny, of my late Mother's legacy go into Sarah Palin's greedy pocket.

The man in the Mall by the Salvation Army kettle was pretty shocked to see me put 5 crisp $20.00 bills in there.

Don't know where I will give next month tho but let me tell you that it shure did feel good to do what I did.

I thought I might be a bit sad but it was not sad it gave me a feeling of taking a stand.

[Ricko]

S in Ontario:

Last I checked, David Sweet is a Conservative. Also, our Federal leadership is under Conservative tenure. When you compare the popular vote to our American friends, the split is actually quite similar... conservative to democrat. Obama did a good job with getting new voters to the poles, and well as sway the minority vote. It is still 60 /40? Perhaps some of you Googlers will correct me.

Canada is no different when you look at Liberal / New Democrats, compared to Conservatives. Assuming that the Bloc are 90% Liberal, the split would be close to 50 / 50.

Please stop stating that Canada is a left of centre country. It's simply NOT true.

Now, Again I say: the blog has been hi-jacked by rhetoric masters located nowhere near Hamilton.

The facts are simple. Palin is coming to town...don't want to attend??.... DON'T!

Those having an epiphany, and suggesting to raise cash by some other method other than what Carmen's is proposing, are doing so simply as a reaction. None of you would have lifted a finger to help anyone unless this "controversy" had started.

If you want to picket, fine, go ahead.

I would rather bet that the majority of you will simply brood in your homes, or pursue the next dragon which irks your being.

[Bobby]

The study goes on to explore the different ways an argument can be used to influence people to support the Death penalty; it has nothing to DO with whether or not CANADIANS support it!

Conclusions and data in any study stands on its own regardless of the focus of the study. Here's a parallel to help you understand this principle - a study looking at youth violence notes that children from broken homes have greater struggles with personal development. The conclusion about personal development stands on its own even though the focus of the study was looking at the particular issue of violence.

Canadians and their views on the death penalty are not a secret. More here, from Amnesty International:

http://www.amnesty.ca/deathpenalty/canada.php

"A motion to reintroduce capital punishment was debated in the House of Commons in 1987. On June 30, the motion was soundly defeated on a free vote (148-127), despite public opinion polls indicating majority support for the death penalty.

A national poll conducted in June, 1995 found that 69% of Canadians moderately or strongly favoured the return of the death penalty, exactly the same level of support as 20 years ago. "

What we see in the above is a divergence between elite opinion (the political class) and public opinion. The House of Commons vote didn't accurately reflect the will of the people.

For John Smith to take his personal views and assign them to the entirety of Canada indicates that he's oblivious to the diversity of opinion in Canada or he's living so far into his bubble that he actually believes that most Canadians are like him.

NOBODY who is the least bit informed, the least bit well-read or the least bit able to think, supports Palin!

Your 'arguments' might work when you are preaching to a choir of equally dumbed-down Palin supporters but Bobby, don't try this nonsense on those of us who are part of that 'elite' segment of the population;

Keep going! You're the best argument walking for anti-liberalism.

What could be better, more fun and delightful than a crowd of World Cup and Olympic athletes giving back?

What could be better? Sarah Palin, of course. Don't you numbskulls get it? The point here is to raise money and to sell tickets. Having some Olympic snowboarder talking is NOT going to sell thousands of tickets at $200 a pop.

[S in Ontario]

Palin left a town of 5,000 20 million dollars in debt, the citizens considered a recall of her position and ended up hiring a manger to do her job since she was inept in that position.
She was appointed as a CITIZEN chair on the energy board by the previous Governor. (not an expert).
She started her run for for state politics by filing an ethics complaint. She left the government within Alaska a complete mess when she departed midterm.
If you doubt, then take a look at her record. Not the phoney stuff touted by the palinbots, including those upon these pages.
Hamilton is a union town, with an NDP (liberal progressive for noncanaidans) and certainly doesn't need a want to be celebrity who spend the weeks after she quit her job as Governor getting and then recovering from plastic surgery, to come in and give a speech by some speech writer that again doesn't have a clue about Ontario or it's politics.
So far, I've just seen a lot of BS coming from those who might support her but don't seem to actually have any knowledge of her record.

[Donald J. Lester]

Don't blame Sarah Palin she represents the majority of politicians, well dressed monkeys, show them a banana, they will come running. The blame of the fiasco belongs to those who are looking to feed from this event. Whats also amazing is how local philanthropists with their dollars are so easily charmed out of their precious funds that are so direly needed in this community; Considering that over half of their contributions will be leaving this city. A sad day for Hamilton.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Bobby .. I just read your post of 4:17

Your 'rebuttals' come straight from Sarah's own book, or her fan base. I don't think you know anything about Sarah Palin, other than what she told you about herself.

I don't know that I would describe Sarah as 'ultra-conservative' mainly because when it comes to policy, she touts the Old Testament. Is THAT ultra-conservative?

She quotes Reagan a lot ... but she never expands on his policies or how/why she admires him. I don't think she knows either, to be honest ... she mouthes sound-bites without understanding what she is talking about.

She sees herself as the new Margaret Thatcher, but doesn't talk about ANYTHING Thatcher did to earn this respect she claims to have, other than they are both 'Conservative Women' .. Margaret Thatcher, would have no use for a lame-brain like Sarah Palin; I lived in England during the Thatcher years, and trust me, Sarah Palin is NO Margaret Thatcher!

On Climate Change: Sarah has reserves her position lately on that, to be 'against' President Obama.. last year, she said:

In a newsletter issued in July 2008, then governor of Alaska Sarah Palin urged her fellow Alaskans to take global warming seriously. She goes on to say this: "The strategy is to serve as a guide for a thoughtful, practical, timely, state of Alaska response to climate change. It is to identify priorities needing immediate attention along with longer-term steps we can take as a state to best serve all Alaskans and to do our part in the global response to this global phenomenon."

Bobby, stop spouting mindless soundbites, quoting out of context snippets of articles you haven't read or repeating the self-serving faux accomplishments of this deluded intellectual lightweight.

I agree with the previous poster; a small group of Canadian Olympic Athletes would have been a GREAT CHOICE ... their fee would have been put to a good cause AND the people buying tickets for this fundraiser would have had a fantastic evening, with REAL CANADIAN ACHIEVERS ... not wanna-be celebrities who are famous for being stupid.

[Mary Louise]

So Mr. Mercanti believes that only "shallow-minded" people oppose the limited access to healthcare that Sarah Palin stands for, yet he admits she was only chosen for her dubious celebrity status. That's some deep thinkin' there, Mercanti.

http://thespec.com/News/Local/article/690919

I'll be sure to book my next party at Carmen's. It must be a really great place, run by someone with such gravitas, and such respect for the values of equality and fairness that his fellow Hamiltonians hold dear.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Bobbby, Bobbby, Bobby .... what nonsense!

This is SO typical of what I call 'Palinbots' .... trying to 'prove' an argument by providing a link to something that
1) you haven't READ
2) you don't understand
3) is irrelevant to your argument

http://archivist1000.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.html

The 'study' you quoted is NOT about whether or not Canadians favor a return to the Death Penalty. Your quick google search found an article from 1996 in a Journal of Medecine which was about

"The present study was designed to investigate arguments which may be effective in persuading people to recommend a sentence of life imprisonment or one of death."

The study goes on to explore the different ways an argument can be used to influence people to support the Death penalty; it has nothing to DO with whether or not CANADIANS support it!

This is SO typical of Palinbots, I see it all the time... when it comes to Sarah Palin, the ONLY people who support her, are those who have no idea about policy, economics, current events or even HER! During her book tour, there have been NUMEROUS examples of the ignorance of the fans waiting in line.

Q: Why do you support Sarah Palin?
A: I just LOVE HER!!!

Q: What is it about Sarah Palin that you admire?
A: She is one of us! She loves God! She loves the Constitution! She will 'take back our country!" "She is a breath of Fresh Air!"

That's pretty much it!
Here is one of those interviews, it's typical, you won't find anything that is 'informed' or 'thoughtful' or even 'logical' when it comes to Palinbots!

http://archivist1000.blogspot.com/2009/11/thats-not-breath-of-fresh-air-that-is.html

So Bobby, stop embarassing yourself; quoting a 13 yr old study that you haven't even read past the first paragraph doesn't support your 'argument' ... all it does is illustrates, once again, that you are part of a group of people who

1-seem to take pride in their lack of knowledge (proud of their ignorance)

2-have a shocking inability to interpret data (undereducated)

3-are determined to avoid anything that would involve critical thinking or reading past a soudbite or an opening paragraph.

NOBODY who is the least bit informed, the least bit well-read or the least bit able to think, supports Palin!

Your 'arguments' might work when you are preaching to a choir of equally dumbed-down Palin supporters but Bobby, don't try this nonsense on those of us who are part of that 'elite' segment of the population; you know, the people Palin sneers at BUT also desperately wants to impress. (that's not gonna happen, Sarah!)

That type of 'argument'might work with her fans who feel 'smart' when she talks to them at Jr High level, but .. it won't work with anyone else!

It might work on Palin's site too -- where I suspect you would fit right in -- since Palin's site is heavily censored and tolerates no rebuttal to her or her fans' 'words of nonsense' but those arguments quickly fall apart when challenged.

This explains WHY Palin doesn't participate in discussions, or accepts questions, or isolates herself from reporters at ALL her events.

RATHER, she HITS and RUNS in phoned-in OpEDs, writes NOTES on FB where she controls responses, doesn't grant interviews to anyone but FOX news. If it wasn't for Rupert Murdoch's heavy financial sponsorship, Sarah would have faded into 'has been' status a long time ago!

She may be able to attract a crowd, but that would describe Britney Spears or the 'two-headed bearded lady' at the circus too!

Anyone with half a brain is repulsed by Sarah Palin's brand of popularity and the people who support her.

[Wayne Robbins]

Sarah Palin
I would not pay $20.00 to listen to her. There should be someone speaking that believes in our values and promotes them. Was she that cheap to get as a speaker, pay her off and find someone more suitable.

[alaska]

Here's a better use of the speakers fee and waaay more fun ~ this is an Olympic year and guess what? The Olympics are in Canada!
There are a bunch of lovely, well-spoken, hot-stuff Ontario and Hamilton athletes on the national teams. They all look like a million bucks in black tie and evening gowns.
http://www.canadasnowboard.ca/en/team/members/

What could be better, more fun and delightful than a crowd of World Cup and Olympic athletes giving back?
So book those guys for April, post-Olympics, for your benefit. No individual fees. Give $100,000 to the Canadian Snowboard Federation to support Olympic training.

If Alaska tickles you, then take $10,000 and bring down the 2 or 3 Alaska Olympic athletes (curling and snowboard). The Alaskans don't get any state support.

They all know each other from competition venues and it would be a wonderful event, with lots of media and love going around. How sexy is that?Potential donors would be getting their wallets out and digging deep...

[Bobby]

and supports the death penalty - all positions not reflective of Canadians.

Further evidence that you're living in your own little bubble and projecting your views onto the entire nation.

Capital punishment: arguments for life and death
Canadian Journal of Behavioural Science | January 1, 1996| Honeyman, Jennifer C; Ogloff, James

"Despite capital punishment having been abolished in Canada 20 years ago, the majority of Canadians continue to favour the death penalty as a sentencing option."

[alaska]

This organization has featured speakers from the entertainment industry and politicians for its fundraisers.
We get that. It's common convention. Celebrities are draws for expensive events. It's fun, it's special, you get to meet (or at least see/hear) somebody famous.
So, let's break this down - sometime last summer (according to reports, this is when Mrs. Palin was contacted for engagement), the boys at Carmen's were sitting around the office, brainstorming a celebrity for the 2010 annual benefit. And PJ Mercanti said, "Aha! I've got it, let's get Sarah Palin from Wasilla, Alaska!"
The other guys looked at him: "Who's Sarah Palin?"

So Mrs. Palin is just the same as actor Michael Douglas? Sure. Michael Douglas is a well-known Emmy-winning actor with a lifetime in the film industry. He's on the board of directors of Ploughshares Fund and a vocal advocate of nuclear disarmament - a supporter of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation. He was appointed UN Messenger of Peace by Secretary-General Kofi Annan in 1999. And he's a Canadian property owner that pays taxes.

Okay, well, Mrs. Palin from Wasilla is exactly the same as former president Clinton. In comments here: "We Canadians, who pride ourselves on tolerance, should show proper respect to the equal of Obama, as she visits Canada."
The "equal" of United States President Obama.

In Mrs. Palin's very own words,

in what respect, Bobby?

Bobby also said: "She governs as a conservative and we Canadians have much to learn from her experience and viewpoint."
I hate to break this to ya, sweetie, but she doesn't govern anything.

Are we talking about the same person? The ex-governor of Alaska who abruptly quit without warning, halfway through her first term, literally giving two weeks notice?The one who didn't want to live in the state capital and was ordered to repay compensation she had claimed for living in her own home, 950 kms away from the seat of government?
Imagine if Premier McGuinty owned a home in Hearst, Ontario (except with no road) and expected to be paid extra to live there, instead of Ottawa? It's the same distance as from Ottawa to Washington, DC.
The one who fervently denounces socialism and the provision of national healthcare, stirring up ignorant fear of communist takeover. The one who refers to the President of the United States as "prez".

What has Mrs. Palin done to be considered a celebrity and command $200,000 speaking fees?
She was mayor of an Alaskan town of approx. 5,000 people. She governed Alaska for 18 months (2.5 state Legislative Sessions), during which she was picked for the Republican vice-presidential nomination on the 'Sarah's Hot/McCain's Not' ticket.
The entire state has a population less than the city of Hamilton. Alaska has 15,000 employees statewide; the Hamilton Health Sciences corporation employs 10,000.

Then she published a memoir written by a ghost writer, and went on a campaign whistlestop book tour.
She's neither a celebrity actor nor a politician. She's an icon for evangelical Christians. She believes that Jewish people will be "flocking to Israel in the days and weeks to come," a tangible sign of The Rapture.

She will require presidential security and police detail, whether it's needed or not. She will ban media and refuse to allow phones and cameras. She will require that attendees check their bags and be frisked.
She'll lecture on the evils of socialism and offer American insight on privatization of health care. She'll insult Canadian policy and leadership, while she offers double-edged compliments on the beautiful city, light anecdotes about hockey and adventures on the Alcan Highway, and claims family links to Canada. She'll polarize and annoy an educated audience.

So if that's your idea of a successful evening of light fundraising fun, go for it.

[Bobby]

Sarah represents many issues which are not reflective of the Hamilton or Canadian community; such as:

You forgot a few values which describe your social circle:

- intolerant;
- closed minded;
- immune to listening to different perspectives;
- irritation when other people in the community have values different from your social circle;
- busybodiness

Now to the specifics of your closed minded letter:

- An ultra conservative with values not reflective of the populace of Hamilton.

She's only an "ultra-conservative" to socialists. To people in the middle of the political spectrum, she's a "common sense" conservative. I realize that when socialists see their whole agenda attacked, they immediately assume that the attack must be based on some fringe philosophy. Not so. You socialists are the fringe and your closed mindedness seems to radically alter your perceptions of the political environment.

- An anti health care reform which would see the poor not afforded decent health care.

Do you seriously believe that the recipient of your letter will pay any heed to strawman arguments based on ignorance of American Republican policy positions on health care? Your boogey-man tactic will likely induce laughter in an audience that is familiar with Palin's positions on health care.

- Constant ethical complaints against her around her professional conduct while a politician.

All complaints filed by tools with similar outlooks to yours and all complaints have been found meritless. Look, if some kook was stalking you with legal harassment, say anonymous calls to 9-11, which forced the police to respond to your residence, the fact that you were the target of this harassment wouldn't make you a danger to society.

- She is anit-climate change & conservation initiatives and has promoted oil and natural gas resource exploration in environmentally sensitive areas including the Artic National Wildlife Refuge.

With good reason too, it seems. When the data is cooked by a cabal of politically motivated "scientists" who cobble together code which outputs the desired results regardless of whether data or noise is fed into the model, then that provides plausible grounds for doubting the a.) veracity of the claims, and b.) the processes said to be at work, and c.) the conclusions based on assumptions.

Look at the poll - doubt is growing at a very healthy pace. Climate warming stopped in 1998, ice sheets have been growing and are now thicker than in 1979, etc.

- She is anti-abortionist, pro bearing arms, opposes same sex marriage, has no use for creationism discussed in education and supports the death penalty - all positions not reflective of Canadians.

Speak for yourself, buddy. No one appointed socialists to speak to for every Canadian. Remember, diversity is our strength. Diversity is a synonym for difference. There are plenty of people who believe that abortion is murder. There are plenty of people who are opposed to the Liberal Long Gun Registry and who are responsible gun owners. Our gun ownership rate is 6x higher than the UK, and only 1/3rd the rate of the US. Only in socialists fantasies would you describe Canada as being opposed to guns. As for Gay Marriage, simply because our Supreme Court, staffed with political hacks who've avoided confirmation hearings, decided to creatively interject themselves into a social practice of long standing, doesn't magically mean that the country is unified behind their hare-brained decision. Even the socialist President of the United States is opposed to gay marriage. Are you going to vilify him too?

- Her family histronics are at best dubious.

Governor Palin has no family histrionics. She has her teenaged daughter's ex-boyfriend pimping himself out to the press and concocting lurid, fact-less, tales, but again, the victim of harassment shouldn't be judged for the actions perpetrated against them by nuts.

- Bringing an American to lecture Hamiltons is an affront to all of the Canadian community leaders who could promote progressive positions,

We've had enough "progressive" ideas, really meaning, regressive socialist ideas that have a history of failure. There's a reason why the mean income of Canadians is far below the mean income of Americans. Our "progressives" have handicapped us for generations.

You can expect that I will cease donating to any of your initiaitves and furthermore will be present to picket in protest.

Why is it that it always seems to be the intolerant left who is always working to stifle free speech and the diversity of ideas. These fascist impulses and displays do not bring honor to Hamilton.

Embarrassed for Hamilton; John Smith,

Embarrassed for Hamilton, is spot on. Your intolerant and closed minded attitude is a black-eye for the city. Shame on you and your actions to shut down speech you don't favor. Keep living in your insular little echo-chamber, but stop these efforts to inflict your censorious positions on other people.

[John Smith]

The following letter was sent to Hospital administrators...Shame on you for bringing Sarah Palin to Hamilton for your fundraising. Sarah represents many issues which are not reflective of the Hamilton or Canadian community; such as:

- An ultra conservative with values not reflective of the populace of Hamilton.
- An anti health care reform which would see the poor not afforded decent health care. This alone is an outrage for a publically funded hospital to be associated with - particularly one such as yours which has an excellent reputation.
- Constant ethical complaints against her around her professional conduct while a politician.
- She is anit-climate change & conservation initiatives and has promoted oil and natural gas resource exploration in environmentally sensitive areas including the Artic National Wildlife Refuge.
- She is anti-abortionist, pro bearing arms, opposes same sex marriage, has no use for creationism discussed in education and supports the death penalty - all positions not reflective of Canadians.
- Her family histronics are at best dubious.
- Bringing an American to lecture Hamiltons is an affront to all of the Canadian community leaders who could promote progressive positions, raise your needed funds, and do so without a riduclous speaking fee.
You can expect that I will cease donating to any of your initiaitves and furthermore will be present to picket in protest.

Embarrassed for Hamilton; John Smith,

[Bobby]

I am sorry to learn that there are more than a few people in Hamilton ready to pay $200 to hear a fool.

I've read this entire thread and no one has stated that they're willing to spend $200 to listen to Jack Layton or Michael Ignatieff. People are however willing to spend $200 to listen to the person who is now has the record for selling the second largest amount of non-fiction books, who is as popular as the President of the United States, a person willing to explore informed alternatives that run against the liberal cant of our times concerning immigration, global warming, energy issues, foreign policy, etc.

The fools are those who style themselves as progressives when all of their policy preferences work to regress a nation's welfare.

[Willow]

TO D. Russell, self-proclaimed fundraiser event organizer:

You stated in your lengthy post, "....As a republican, Mrs. Palin is supposed to represent the stance on health care that she does. However her attendance at this event would be a tremendous opportunity to enlighten her on the beauty of universal health care. It is a known fact that the Americans do not have much information about the progressive health care that Canada offers. Her attendance at this event could be a great opportunity for us to showcase the many positives of our health care system."

My response to D. Russell is this, if Sarah Palin or any other American requires educating on the Canadian Helath care system then perhaps Palin should be paying for the "educational experience" of speaking in Canada. Monies charged to Palin could be donated to St. Peters and other such cancer organizations.

Get real, if she is so stupid about our health care system, that she has openly critisized in ignorance, then she has no business speaking on behalf of a medical facility in Canada which is supported by tax dollars from Canadian citizens!

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Kerry Donnelly said "It is a blast watching commie pinko Canadian heads explode over the notion that the SarahCuda will be in Hamiliton speaking.

It just goes to show judging by these comments that Canadians, contrary to their own self-image, are a backward, intolerant, badly educated, and non-productive ward of the Queen's own State."

I am so glad Mr Donnelly took the time to post on here; had he not, many people wouldn't understand the 'depth' of ignorance that a typical Palin supporter proudly displays.

This is the level of 'intellect' to be found amongst those who support Palin ..

Seriously!

www.archivist1000.blogspot.com ... Dedicated to Palinbots!!!

[JOHN CHUCKMAN, TORONTO]

I am sorry to learn that there are more than a few people in Hamilton ready to pay $200 to hear a fool.

She is entertaining, I grant.

When you hear someone who is ignorant blubbering as though she knew something, how could you not laugh?

Add to that her good looks, and I guess you have the makings of a second-rate Las Vegas show.

Shame on Hamilton for offering a podium to a rather dangerous idiot.

[Bruce]

I'm an Alaskan and can assure my Northern Neighbors that Ms. Palin is one of the least charitable "former" politicans I know of. In her "book" she has thrown so many of her fellow Alaskan's under the bus,that it's probably high centered by now. Alaskan's abhor a quiter and a large number of former supporters feel betrayed. Many Alaskan's are not welcoming her back to this corner of the "Great White North"

[DG]

As a Canadian conservative who has dual citizenship ( US/Canada) and is also a Republican, what can I say about Palin appearance at this fundraiser other than WORDS FAIL.

*shakes head* Palin is a political celebrity with little political credibility. But then again...celebs with no integrity is the norm these days - lets face it - 3/4 of the "save the environment/global warming" celebs fly around in private jets, fly their entourages around in private jets, and leave HUGE carbon footprints.

Hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Kerry Donnelly]

It is a blast watching commie pinko Canadian heads explode over the notion that the SarahCuda will be in Hamiliton speaking.

It just goes to show judging by these comments that Canadians, contrary to their own self-image, are a backward, intolerant, badly educated, and non-productive ward of the Queen's own State.

[Jamie]

I'd pay that to see Tina Fey's impression of Palin!

[Maryanne]

Sarah Palin is a boring subject and we should move on? I count 112 blog entries. I asked the Spectator web editor and he emailed just now and said they got 5,700 votes on the poll. How is that boring to most people? I hope the organizers are listening.

[Peter Michael]

Donnie J, I'm a loser because I find the debate of an over-rated has-been politician coming to Hamilton boring?

Guess we know how YOUR sharp mind works when it comes to making judgements on other people; if someone has an opinion (in all likelihood other than yours) they're a loser...

[Ed2]

What I find most disturbing about this scenario is that people who are so upright about their stand for the citizens of their country, or any other country, and supposedly want the best for all, and then they pull a Greed Coup of charging for their speech.

I would agree to expenses plus a few dollars, but to take this kind of fee out of the equation for helping is not my idea of being concerned for fellow earthlings.

A prominent Canadian environmentalist who does a lot of speaking engagements and is a spokesperson on commercials usually asks for a high fee as well and will contour or create the speech to be in line with the organizers thinking and expected outcome of a venue. This is not so much as an environmentalist giving a real speech but rather a creative slanting of an opinion and ideal. Money is the vermin in either case.

Similar to surveys; ask the question in a way that it must be answered in the order of needed responses as compared to a real question and actual answer.

Example: Ask motorists filling up their vehicle at a gas station; "Would you be willing to give up the use of your vehicle?" The answer; "No. Definitely not."

Now ask the real question; "If transit were convenient, reliable, affordable, and serviced your requirements of need for travel or employment, would you be willing to offset your lifestyle by using transit?" Then the answer would be realistic.

My opinion only, and thank you for your time.

[D]

Bobby@9:01 - "Palin took on corruption in her party. Name a prominent Canadian politician who cleaned house in their party and sent people to jail."

Alaskan @ Dec 12, 12:14 AM is correct. Sarah Palin had nothing to do with the investigation, indictment, trials or sentencing of corrupt Alaskan officials.

Those were FBI investigations, and were prosecuted (badly, by Bush administration staff) by federal prosecutors.

[D]

Mr. PJ Mercanti (07:58PM), Sarah Palin is NOT "a reasonably priced speaker", not for what she brings to the table, which is a teller of tales, a confabulator.

I'll bet your other example, Michael Douglas, donated some of his fee to the cause...

Save yourself the money, invite someone who's made it their life's work to help other people, like Oprah Winfrey or Bill Gates, two very wealthy and knowledgable world-wide philanthropists who'd probably pay YOU to allow them to speak.

[D]

Oh, Bobby (05:07 PM), how misinformed you are, even in your paean to "freedom loving people in Communist China".

Didn't anyone tell you that when Palin gave her speech in Hong Kong, it was to a group of international -- including American -- global investors?

She made a pair of American investors so uncomfortable with her criticisms of President Obama (who'd served only 8 months by then), and bragging about the home state she quit on in July, that they left early according to AFP, with one saying "it was awful, we couldn't stand it any longer."

People who would ordinarily buy tickets to this hospital/cancer center fundraiser without a second thought should realize that 1000 tickets would have to be bought first -- to pay Palin's exorbitant speaking fee -- before the organizers of the event could even begin to raise those charitable contributions for the hospital and cancer center.

It was suggested by Mr. Macaluso that perhaps pictures taken with the speaker would raise some additional money -- but to date Palin's been collecting that money for herself, too, selling 5x7 photos for $16 (8x10s, $36) to the thousands of fans who lined up to meet her on the month-long book tour. She forbad any cameras or cellphone-cameras anywhere near her at each venue.

Inviting Palin to speak at a charitable fundraiser is just so wrong on so many levels. There isn't a charitable bone in her body.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Don says: She is staunchly pro-life and is strongly supportive of disabled people.

Really? Give me ONE example of something Sarah has done to show strong support for the disabled.

In fact, she has made fun of genetic research, because it involved fruit flies .. yet another example of her ignorance of basic Scientific research AND of her disdain for Science and Education in general.

Please: Sarah may 'say' she supports the disabled, but .. what has she actually 'done' to show that support??

[Tom Robertson]

I am sure there are many people who regularly attend these dinners to support the worthy charities that will benefit. There are many people willing to spend $200 per person to support the Juravinski Centre and St. Peter's but are not fans of Sarah Palin and her views. It would be a great idea for these supporters to buy their tickets and donate them to the Good Shepherd,The Wesley Urban Centre, Mission Services and the Salvation army to treat their clients to one of the famous and fabulous meals served by Carmens. I still miss Carmens outlet on Concession Street

[Bobby]

she has called for the system to be 'privatized', said the Canadian system is 'socialism' and that the Goverment has 'absorbed' the system which is so ridiculous, it's hard to know where to start, other than to say that the Canadian Govt has not 'absorbed' anything.. In her ignorance, Sarah seems to think that those 'poor Canadians need to stop the Governement from taking over the HC system bit by bit' ... another example of Sarah's total lack of understanding of the Canadian HC model.

Are you an American? You sure seem pretty ignorant of Canadian history. Of course, the government absorbed the medical system. Canada used to have a private medical system before the socialist reforms led by Douglas and Pearson. If you don't like the word "absorbed" how about "hijacked" or "expropriated" or "stolen."

Many documented instances of this are in my blog, BTW, which is all about the Palinbots.

You have an entire blog dedicated to trashing a politician? Yikes! Maybe you should seek some help for your monomania and quit trolling the entire world to look for opportunities to spread your disinformation.

To feature someone who perverted the American debate over a public option for U.S healthcare by proclaiming that ‘death-panels’ would emerge deciding who would live and who would die is an insult to the concept of intelligent debate.

Lorne, her death panels remark was right on target. We get regular reports of death panel decisions here in Canada. I watched one report last week on Newsworld, where Ontario wouldn't pay for a life-saving treatment and the woman had to either die or move to BC, which did pay. Here is another story from a quick google search:

http://www.canada.com/windsorstar/news/story.html?id=7bc1aabd-821b-4c57-b597-64b449b73089

These are death panels - in a one payer system, once they decide that you're better off dead, then there is no alternative for you. Remember where Martin made the cuts to reduce the deficits? Cutting the quality of people's medical care and not giving them the opportunity to provide for their own health care insurance is an evil system. Those cuts to medical care rippled all the way up to our own death panels.

To invite someone who represents a political party that has consistently opposed public health care for many decades is an insult to all of those who support and revere the Canadian system that values people over profit.

You know who you remind me of - the Ottawa Public Works Commission (?) which didn't want to insult Canadian Communists by labeling a memorial to the hundreds of millions of victims of communism. Who cares if you're insulted by her ideas, other people aren't. You can go and bury your head in the sand and keep repeating your hosanna "socialized medicine is the best" as we keep shipping expectant mothers to the US so that they can deliver their preemies because we can't accommodate every pregnant woman in our hospitals.

In my view, the only way to eliminate this dilemma is to rescind the invitation and bring to Hamilton someone who is well-respected for both intellect and humanitarianism.

And make Hamilton the laughing stock of the world and make us synonymous with rudeness, intolerance and narrowmindedness. No thanks. Trying to scrub the legacy of Copps and the current NDP-heavy representation is enough of a job of reputation rehabilitation.

[Lorne]

The decision to feature Sarah Palin, the failed Republican Vice-Presidential candidate, as the keynote speaker to raise funds for both the Juravinski Cancer Centre and St.Peter’s Hospital is ill-conceived for a number of reasons:

To feature someone who perverted the American debate over a public option for U.S healthcare by proclaiming that ‘death-panels’ would emerge deciding who would live and who would die is an insult to the concept of intelligent debate.

To invite someone who represents a political party that has consistently opposed public health care for many decades is an insult to all of those who support and revere the Canadian system that values people over profit.

For those doctors, nurses and myriad support staff working in service of universal health care at the two facilities benefitting from the fundraiser, the irony of Sarah Palin’s presence will no doubt be embittering.

Finally, for those philanthropists who traditionally support local fundraising efforts, deciding whether or not to attend will be a difficult one. Will they go, risking the perception that they are shallowly embracing the cult of celebrity that Mrs. Palin represents? Will they attend, knowing that the lavish speaking fees she commands will likely be part of her ‘war-chest’ as she contemplates running for President in the next American election? Or will they decide to stay away, choosing to stand up for their principles, their beliefs, and their integrity, but thereby diminish the amount raised for the Juravinski Centre and St.Peter’s Hospital?

In my view, the only way to eliminate this dilemma is to rescind the invitation and bring to Hamilton someone who is well-respected for both intellect and humanitarianism.

[Don]

This line of reasoning is preposterous. Why would a person of any political stripe not be allowed to speak. People don't have to agree. Last time, I checked this was a democracy. People can attend and come away with whatever they feel or believe. She is staunchly pro-life and is strongly supportive of disabled people. She did not criticize the Obama administration in Hong Kong and was generally supportive of the surge in Afghanistan. So I think over time people have noticed that she has moved to nuance to broaden her appeal. The criticims come from things months ago. Let her speak. Do any of us agree with every one we listen to.

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Margaret DS says: No, I wouldn't pay $200 to hear her speak. I would never have voted for her. However, the comments in here about her are disgusting. I just might send her a $200 donation in solidarity with another woman who has guts. As for this being an insult to Canadians that's just drama queening.

Margaret, you can certainly send your $200 in, it's your money; but please, don't send it in under the impression that you support Sarah as a 'woman who has guts' because that isn't Sarah, not by a long shot.

It takes no guts at all, to say outrageous things when one knows these things are said from the safety of a Facebook page ... a page that heavily censors any and all comments that might challenge what Sarah says.

It takes no 'guts' to phone in an OpEd into the Washington Post (owned by her mentor, Rupert Murdoch) where she opines her superficial knowledge on Energy or Climate issues, yet refuses to acknowledge any invitation to discuss her 'ideas' with anyone who has true expertise on the topics.

It takes no 'guts' to go on FOX (again, owned by Rupert Murdoch) to be handed softball questions under the guise of an interview.

It takes no 'guts' to publish a book (again, published by Rupert Murdoch) where she fabricates flattering stories about herself and engages in a High School girl vendetta against anyone who has dared challenge her in the past.

It takes no 'guts' to accuse her opponent of outrageous activities, when she knows she won't be subjected to any serious demands for explanations by a mainstream press.

So please, admire her if you like for her true strength, which is the ability to suck the air of out any serious discussion by bogging it down to endless soundbite nonsense. Or, her amazing ability to allow the least informed and dumbed down segment of the population to see 'themselves' in her, while she jets aroud in private jets, get a multi million dollar book contract to 'not write' a book or builds herself a Kennedy style compound in Alaska!

That is amazing ... but her courage to 'say it like it is' .. well that isn't courage in her case, it's Hit and Run cowardice.

www.archivist1000.blogspot.com

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Bobby:

You said: Being civil, polite and tolerant to the President in Waiting when she visits Canada will do more for our reputation than the antics of intolerance that we see displayed on this page.

What are you smoking? The President in Waiting? She is no such thing. That is just ridiculous.

As for being 'civil' ... her statements regarding Canada and its HC system are hardly civil, and certainly they are innacurate. She has called for the system to be 'privatized', said the Canadian system is 'socialism' and that the Goverment has 'absorbed' the system which is so ridiculous, it's hard to know where to start, other than to say that the Canadian Govt has not 'absorbed' anything.. In her ignorance, Sarah seems to think that those 'poor Canadians need to stop the Governement from taking over the HC system bit by bit' ... another example of Sarah's total lack of understanding of the Canadian HC model.

BUT even if this were true, Sarah Palin's 'version' of what Canadians should or should not do, is based on her well known ignorance of issues as well as her habit of spouting off her nonsense in forums where she can't be 'challenged' or 'questionned' ... Hit and Run/Hide is her MO ...

I laugh at people who describe her as 'tough' and 'not afraid to tell it like it is' .. ANYONE can do that, if they do it from behind a security blanket where there is no danger of being held to support her statements. Fact is, she is a coward and a liar, which is well documented now in the many many MANY rebuttals to the fantasies and 'complete fabrications' in her book.

I do agree with the previous poster who said that inviting and paying Sarah Palin to speak in Canada is an insult to the many hard working Canadians who give of their hard earned money and time in volunteering for the Canadian Cancer Society --- to pay this woman an outrageous sum of money to spout off her uninformed nonsense IS an insult to the thousands who work tirelessly for something they care about and believe in ... as opposed to Sarah who is 'available if the price is right, to support just about anything she is paid to support'. Integrity and 'values' indeed.

Bobby: I suggest that you inform yourself before stick up for this woman; you obviously don't know very much about her other than what you have read in places where only her 'supporters' are allowed to talk .. those sites, including her OFFICIAL site on FB are heavily censored, so that only adulation is permitted or ... misinformed lies/conspiracies and outright calls to violence against President Obama are tolerated.

Many documented instances of this are in my blog, BTW, which is all about the Palinbots.

I hope the organizers of this event have a Morality Clause in this contract; Sarah's facade may very well be shattered by the time April comes along.

george wannan says: The rabid slurring of Sarah Palin is quite encouraging, it means they still fear the light of day and common sense and decency!

george, you must be an American Palinbot, this is precisely the type of statement they seem to think proves their position about Sarah.. yet they don't seem to think that their 'rabid slurring' and constant lies about President Obama gives the same message! I know Sarah supporters are not known for their 'thinking skills' but .... this would seem like 'common sense' to me!

BTW: nobody needs to LIE about Sarah Palin to 'slur' her, she gives people more than enough material whenever she opens her mouth to release yet another shockingly uninformed statement.

Remember the most famous skit on SNL by Tina Fey? Word for word Palinspeak nonsense.

More on the Palinbot phenomenon @ archivist1000.blogspot.com

[Donald J. Lester]

One of the things we all should become aware of, is that half or more of your contributions to charities goes into the pockets of the well to do. Moreover as I previously mentioned is that all those designated as Charitable institutions are not required to provide an accounting of where such funds are spent.

If over the past 10 years and agencies were held accountable for such funds...including a public accounting who and how much was paid out for collecting such, your heads would spin...

Over the years such events have become an easy mark, while governments fail to meet community responsibility with out present tax dollars. They collect our taxes, spend them frivolously knowing that good hearted people will pickup the slack.

I am not suggesting that anyone stops giving...what I am suggesting is questioning, and demanding what percentage of your contributions is going directly to what ever you are donating towards...What percentage of this $200. per plate including all of the other tweaks that you participate in, in this or any other event....

[Bobby]

Sarah Palin is coming to speak to us, and this situation is surely better than what this woman had to face, as she flew from Guangzhou, China to Rochester, NY in order to see Palin.

If freedom loving people in Communist China can see the appeal of a Freedom Fighter like Palin, then surely the soft, squishly, mindless socialists we have in Canada can also see her appeal and that's why they're attacking her so viciously - they hate freedom (see: Human Rights - Thought Control) and they fight against those who stand for individual liberty (see: Sarah Palin.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmKxtCIZvgU&feature=player_embedded

[Bobby]

Hey, Bobby,
Why don't you freakin leave if you don't like Canada. This is a center left country.

As Canada becomes more multicultural it'll move away from the mental illness known as leftism. Social welfare type of government depends on high levels of social connection, and multiculturalism is corrosive to social connection.

We'll get Canada set on the right course, soon enough.

[Tom Robertson]

Having Ms. Palin speak at a fund raiser for Hamilton Health Sciences which goes completely against everything she believes in is the equivalent of having Mike Tyson and Chris Brown giving speeches where the charity receiving the funds is a shelter for abused women. I'm sure there will be many Hamiltonians waiting outside Carmens to give her a warm Canadian welcome.

[Ricko]

Seems like the Spec has been hijacked by American propaganda artists.

Palin has sold 2 million copies of her book in just weeks. She's a draw for attention, good or bad. Doesn't matter.

I'm a center right Canadian unlike those described by SUPER GOON. However, I have no intent on buying a ticket..... and I can afford it.

The reason I will not, is because Palin was a Republican hail mary pass gone wrong. She shouldn't have been there in the first place, and then when asked to tow the party line, she decided to grow an opinion and a taste for publicity.

I'm smart enough to differentiate between sensationalism politics and fact, so are the regular bloggers here, left or right.

Thanks Spec for making it clear that the vast majority of fanatical biased statements are plants from the American fringe.

[Pete the common sense guy]

THE ONUS is on Carmen's Banquet Centre's. Simple.

And we must all URGE the Mercanti family and their excecutive team, to cancel the invitation to Ms. Sarah Palin as guest speaker.

However....lashing out against the Cancer Society and other institutions that DEPEND and NEED on our help is counter-productive and we CANNOT and must NEVER withhold our financial support or assistance,NEVER.

Therefore instead of lashing out, why not ask one or more of our banks to open up Trust Accounts in which we the public, can make contributions between now and April 15th-2010?

You see folks, there's no need for a fancy dinner at $200.00 a plate,fancy dresses and an overpriced speaker.

A simple Trust Account will do just fine thank you very much! Our collective deposits into these Trust Accounts will most likely EXCEED everyone's expectations and without the "speakers" fee. How's that for common sense?

Maybe it's too commom and too simple of an idea in today's world, but you know what? Simple things often work better than all the the "rubber chicken" dinners in the world.

[Newsers]

On first hearing that former Governor of Alaska Sarah Palin had been invited to speak in our city, my first thought was that it must be a joke. Comedic fodder for a Rick Mercer or Canadian Air Farce episode.

That amusement soon turned to incredulity as it became apparent that the fundraising committee headed by Gabe Macaluso was serious about paying almost a quarter of a million dollars to a person who has recently been at the centre of much divisive controversy in America.

Being a strong supporter of women in politics it is not easy to come out in opposition to Ms. Palin. However, clearly this woman is no Sheila Copps, Ellen Fairclough or Nora Frances Henderson. She brings little to the table other than notoriety. Celebrity for all the wrong reasons.

How can one take seriously the opinions of anyone who is still calling for the President of the United States to prove he's an American? Who, through her affiliation with Fox Newsertainment has hinted that the President is a socialist Nazi (is that even possible?), who is setting up death panels to deny healthcare to elderly patients? Who believes that the earth is a mere 5,000 years old, denying scientific evidence to the contrary? Wants to take Polar Bears off the endangered species list? A woman who believes that healthcare is better left to the private sector (that's really worked out well south of the border hasn't it?).

What could be the possible motivation to invite such an intellectual lightweight into the Canadian national healthcare debate?

Perhaps the organizers hope that enough people will be impressed by her tabloid celebrity and obvious good looks to be willing to pay big bucks for a snapshot with Ms. Palin that they can turn this into a money-making event.

Then again, maybe they're counting on that part of human nature that stops to stare at a traffic accident or attends the circus.

Surely there are better choices Mr. Macaluso.

[Margaret]

I find it unfortunate that this booking has come to this. But, that seems to be what happens whenever Palin happens to speak. I give to Charities of all sorts in the Region of Hamilton, Burlington, Toronto, and I am not and never have been an NDP supporter. Why this woman was booked I will never understand, surely at this time we can come up with a CANADIAN to speak regarding Health issues, and also raising money for hospitals, as Palin does not believe in our Health System and I also say that as a woman who worked since the age of 15 and retired at 65 who managed to get a degree in Accounting along the way while being a single parent. So I don't really care about Palin she can jabber all she wants in the States but, don't do it here and expect two hundred thousand dollars for doing it.

[Paul Dickson]

I wouldn't pay to hear any politician speak.Most of them don't have any opinion of their own.They say only what their lackies tell them to say and what will be of the greatest benefit to their career.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

I see Sarah's Palinbot squad has found this message board!

[super goon one]

Hey, Bobby,
Why don't you freakin leave if you don't like Canada. This is a center left country.

[Margaret DS]

No, I wouldn't pay $200 to hear her speak. I would never have voted for her. However, the comments in here about her are disgusting. I just might send her a $200 donation in solidarity with another woman who has guts. As for this being an insult to Canadians that's just drama queening.

[Ron Novakovich]

The great benefit of living in a democracy that all views and opinions can be voiced publically. Your choice is whether or not you want to agree with them. Sarah Palin is certainly no political heavyweight but she is in the news. If the owners of Carmen's want to bring her in to speak and give to the proceeds to cancer research, it is their choice. If you don't want to see her, don't go. Some people objected to President Clinton's appearance. Boycotting donations to the Canadian Cancer Society and the Jurvinski Centre seems to be the dumbest thing to do for cancer patients and survivors and their families. Think of the irony, a person who knows nothing about our medical care system and is against it, is actually contributing to improvement of a world-class cancer centre like the Jurvinski Centre. If you don't want to go, don't go but please don't stop your donations.

[Don J.]

Peter Mike, you must be the only loser who finds this topic boring. A few thousand people disagree. I guess we know what to think of your judgement. I hope your not using that sharp mind to make decisions about things that matter.

[george wannan]

The rabid slurring of Sarah Palin is quite encouraging, it means they still fear the light of day and common sense and decency!

By all mean please reserve my ticket to see Sarah.

Conservatives are the new radicals.

[bob unitt]

*Take a peek behind the Palin poll*

When I saw the stats had steamed in from 9/1 against, to 7/3, heavy traffic from outside the area came straight to mind.

Spec, thanks for being on top of that up.

[ericmiami]

As an American, I apologize in advance of her "speech" to all you good Canadian people.

[Peter Michael]

Wow, I can't believe how many comments have been posted on such a boring topic. Let's move on already.

[Bobby]

Margaret I went to read that story on Huffington's Post.

I am not the only one who agrees that this is an insult to Canada, they are making fun of it there already.

We are a laughingstock now, just as I thought would happen.

Why would you care what the nuts who frequent the Huffington Post think of Canada?

Being civil, polite and tolerant to the President in Waiting when she visits Canada will do more for our reputation than the antics of intolerance that we see displayed on this page.

The belief that Canada is a Socialist country?
The belief that Canada's HC system should be privatized?

Um, we are a socialist country. I could spend a day listing all sorts of government programs that go beyond the governmental mission of providing public goods. Here's a hint - when the government backs legislation for maternal leaves, or provides funds for child care, or forces strangers to fund the medical care of other strangers, then we're living in a socialist wonderland. Secondly, our medical system is fraying and we are slowly moving to the better outcome of privatized medicine. That day can't come soon enough.

[Ed2]

No matter what. This is going to be a tough act to follow.

[Mandy]

Who is voting yes??

[Ian]

Well seeing how we are a socialist country and that we do need some privatizing in our healthcare system, i guess Palin is correct in her observations. I also find it typical that so many NDP supports hate everything about her, so they try and try to rip her apart like a bunch of rabid dogs, but what can anybody really fault her for? She's a feminists dream, hard working governor, attractive, loving wife and mother, obviously intelligent (contrary to what many people assume because of her alaskan twang). Anyways, you can gaurantee I will be up front with my $200. ;)

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Bobby @ 9:01 .. apparently the 'news' that Palin is a liar, that her book is all lies and mirepresentations and that pretty much all of your points have been debunked as fabrication on her part hasn't reached Canada?

It seems that you, and the organizers of this event have read her book and believe her 'stories'.

Too bad. It makes you all look very foolish to be buying into her fantasy world.

Too bad I won't be asked to donate to this cause, since I don't live in Hamilton.

I would love to get a phone call, from some volunteer who is trying to raise funds, (a volunteer who isnt paid $200,000 to do her good work) and be able to tell this volunteer .... "Sorry, I hear you just paid an idiot 200,000, go look for $$$ somewhere else" .

Does this organization expect to KEEP their volunteers after this? I sure wouldn't give my time to a cause that wastes $$$$ on Sarah Palin, that's for sure.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

john 11:12 you must be a Palinbot; nobody else would something ridiculous as She is correct on so many of her beliefs. What beliefs?

The belief that Canada is a Socialist country?
The belief that Canada's HC system should be privatized?

Palinbots always make dumb statements like that, but can't exactly pinpoint which 'beliefs' other than their bible thumping nonsense.

Surely there aren't any Palinbots in Canada. I thought Canadians were educated and literate!

[sunshine2003]

A direct Palin quote from an interaction with Marg Dalahunty of 22 Minutes fame (Nov. 2009).
“keep the faith because common sense conservatism can be plugged in there in Canada too. In fact, Canada needs to reform its health care system and let the private sector take over some of what the government has absorbed.”
(in a parking lot following a book signing in Columbus, Ohio)
What is the Jurvinski Cancer Development office thinking !!!!?????
We cannot let this go on. As a 6 year cancer survivor who's very grateful for the wonderful treatment received at Jurvinski Centre, I am absolutely insulted by the thought of this person, who thinks so little of our heathcare system, be invited (for $200,000 yet) to come and speak for it's benefit!
Her thoughts on aerial hunting of wolves; offering a bounty for each foreleg brought in; insulting a fellow candidate on radio about her weight and cancer by laughing when asked by the radio host; do we need to go on?
We cannot let this happen. I would encourage others who are outraged by this decision, become vocal to the Jurvinski Cancer Centre, Development Office and other media outlets. Perhaps they will come to their senses and cancel the event. If it is not, I plan to protest it every step of the way.

[Archivist1000.blogspot.com]

Ok .. let me get this straight.

This organization, needs to raise funds. So, they waste $200,000 paying Sarah Palin, of all people, to come talk to them??

This is a woman who was too stupid to go to a hospital when she was in labor, and flew back to Alaska from Dallas while in Labor .. and she is invited to speak at a Medical fundraiser?

This is the woman who says Canada is a Socialist country ... who never misses a chance to disrespect the Health System in Canada, and you are paying her $200,000 to go insult you in person?

Any this organization expects people to take their donation requests seriously??

Are you kidding me? They have money to throw away on American's Queen of Idiocy .... they probably are supplying her with a private jet to get to Hamilton in, and they want regular people who work for a living to donate to their fund raiser?

Do they think everyones is as stupid as Palin??? OR is this by 'invitation only' to Sarah's Palinbots?? Are there enough undereducated people in Canada to justify this?

Is there a self-respect problem in Canada that I am not aware of?? Because, this is just pathetic. Wasn't Joe the Plumber available? He is just as stupid, but probably cheaper.

[Altor]

Ever since the management of the Health Science Sector has been changed to resemble that of "the private sector" I've come to the decision not to donate to support the proven unethical behavior of such system or better, business.
I'm glad that, although ever so slowly, more are coming to the realization that what was once considered honorable has now been turned into something less so and all together unethical and immoral. Mediocrity is the malady which befalls all societies before their final end.
Let's not blame Democracy for it for Democracy was never given a fair chance
due to the cancerous entrenchment of a still spreading disease called "Fascism".
BTW, I detest Communism!

[Ricko]

The venom being spewed here only proves that Palin isn't the only fanatic.

Diane's is the best.

Don't like her? Don't buy a ticket.

[Jack Streniuk]

Margaret I went to read that story on Huffington's Post.

I am not the only one who agrees that this is an insult to Canada, they are making fun of it there already.

We are a laughingstock now, just as I thought would happen.

[Bobby]

Recent poll data now shows that Palin is within a few percentage points of Obama in terms of approval ratings. We Canadians, who pride ourselves on tolerance, should show proper respect to the equal of Obama, as she visits Canada.

On a side note, it's very interesting to watch human dynamics reshape ideas, as we this forum shows ignorant people show their "progressive" stripes as really being nothing else than intolerance. This behavior is little different than what we see from university "progressives" who shout down visiting speakers that they disagree with.

As with Americans, there are plenty of Canadians, who respect Palin and her accomplishments, but apparently they don't visit this forum, which seems overflowing with socialist useful idiots who've imbibed too deeply of Pravda-like agitprop.

If you don't want to listen to Palin speak, then don't. Go listen to a speech by Copps or Castro or Stalin. But giving Canada such a black eye by displaying your ignorant hate and intolerance is not the way to live up to "Canadian values."

[Tom Robertson]

I don't think journalists will be allowed within 100 feet of her. Having to answer a question is not one of her best skills. God forbid Palin becomes President in 2012. She will place an embargo on Canada and blockade entrance to the St. Lawrence River because of our socialistic health care system and the associated "Death Panels" that in her mind we must have associated with it. But she probably will come to Ancaster to help cull the herds of deer.

[Jack Streniuk]

Mary Louise you are probably right but I dont think the HHC cares about my thoughts or the thoughts of 100s of other people do they? They think they will make a bit of money and get publicity with this so they don't care about insulting my country, my health system or the thousands of people like me who do more than Sarah Palin ever did or will do for cancer reseach. She gives a speech for 1 hours and gets $200,000 it's a joke and an insult to some of us who give $$$ and our time for nothing.

The only way I can protest is to let the Canadian Cancer Society how I feel and that is with my money which is all they care about anyway. I am glad my Mother didn't live to see this and I am sure she would approve of my actions.

I am sorry we see this differently you seem like a good person, but like I said I will be da*ned if I give one more penny that will even indirectly go into that idiot's pocket. I am surprised that more volunteer workers are not speaking up about this to tell you the truth!

Hours and hours of our time phone calls and canvassing for free, because we care, then this nitwit American fool gets thousands of dollars for being stupid?

Any way you look at it it's an insult to Canadians in my opinion and I won't take it without making some sort of gesture of protest.

Maybe if more people did this they would hear the message. After all, it's the bottom line that counts, with them since they invite her who has been insulting to us every chance she got.

[Margaret]

Well Hamilton, you have made it Big Time. This story is now on Huffington Post, and the comments generated are not great for the City or Palin. People cannot understand why she was invited in the first place and why Palin would come to Hamilton except for the Money, and that is the only reason I can see her coming here. They would have been so much better having Mary Walsh speak, at least she is funny and I would pay $200 to listen to her degenerate Palin, and she would probably be cheaper.

[Mary Louise]

Jack, the Juravinski Cancer Centre and the Canadian Cancer Society are not connected in any way, except that they both have the word 'Cancer' in their names. Punishing the Canadian Cancer Society because the Juravinski Cancer Centre is associating itself with Palin would be like invading Iraq because you were attacked by a few Saudis, or cancelling your donation to the Hamilton Conservation Authority because you're mad at Joanna Chapman.

I do hope you will reconsider. Channel your anger into writing to Hamilton Health Sciences to tell them that they will never see any donation money from you, or telling Carmen's that you will never book an event at their establishment.

[Dawn]

I'm not sure Palin knows that Canada isn't part of the US. She didn't know where Gaza was. I am sorry that Palin is going to your country, but as an American, I would rather we export our idiots than import more of them. While you have Palin, make her uncomfortable. Have people speak in French (foreigners make her uncomfortable. She doesn't like them even when she is in their land), ask "gotcha journalism" questions like "Can you read newspapers and if so, which ones?" "Does being so ignorant hurt like sinus pressure, or do you not notice?"
If she wants to stay in Canada, please for the love of God and all that is holy, KEEP HER!

[JJ]

The only way I'd pay $200 to see Palin speak is if Al Gore appears with her, and they debate climate change.

I'd pay MORE than $200 to see that.

BWAHAHA!

[Say No]

Hamiltonians, please STAND UP, be HEARD and take Control!

There's a LOT you can do; for example: Apply the ABC approach, or the:

"Anywhere But Carmens"

1) Cancel all your events at Carmen's,and re-book all your events at another Banquet Centre or Hall.

2)Boycott ALL current and future events at Carmen's.

3) Organize a "Hamiltonians Care" fund raiser. It should not be that difficult to raise $75,000.00 or $100,000.00 directly from the general public and without Sarah Palin or the Mercanti's of Carmen's.

4)Take Control Hamiltonians, take control.

5) Say " NO " to Carmen's, say " NO " to Sarah Palin.

6) Hamiltonians, Stand UP, be HEARD, and take Control!

[Jack Streniuk]

I hope other Canadians let them know that our donations and time are given out of Love and Caring. Paying this fool to come here and they PAY HER is an insult to the volunteers and givers of Canada.

[Jack Streniuk]

Mary Louise: I understand what you are saying but I will not support any part of it with my or my late Mother's legacy.

Paying this nit-wit 200,000 to come here after she insulted my country and my health system is too much.

It reflects on our Country to line her pockets too and that is the other thing. I feel used now that is my feeling. Forget the fund raising and just give that 200,000 to the Cancer Society but giving it to Sarah Palin is too disgusting for words.

SHE IS A CANCER herself and they are using my money to feed it? No way. Not a penny more from me.

I will no longer donate my time to canvassing either. Let the organizers be the ones to give their time doing that.

Even if they raise 200,000 that is breaking even! It's bad management and to be honest it makes Canadians look like fools to pay to come hear this woman blather on.

I live in Alberta, but if I lived in Ontario I would do even more to show my disgust.

I am sticking to my guns o this, Mary Louise. Monday morning I am cancelling my auto-debit (in force since 2003) and the Canadian Cancer Society can go fly a kite to Alaska next time they ask me for any help.

They are showing me that they think we are all saps to donate. I could use that money better to make my life a bit easier but I gave my Mom's legacy in her memory for all these years.

NO MORE.

[Ruth]

What has Palin done to deserve an audience in Canada, let alone Hamilton?
What is she going to talk about? Her family problems?
Can she talk about global warming? Or is she going to discus moose hunting? $200 a plate? C'mon people..this amount can go very far in Somalia or even back here. Please..please...there must be other more intelligent and inspirational people that deserve an audience..

[Tom Robertson]

Another black eye for Hamilton Health Sciences. First renaming Henderson Hospital and now this