Torstar News Service reports:
'The
province has covertly passed an extraordinary regulation empowering G20
officers to arrest anyone found near the security zone who refuses to
give their identity or allow police to search them. A 32-year-old man has been arrested under the new regulation,
which was passed by provincial cabinet June 2 using what is known as a
"covering" order-in-council. The regulation was passed under
the Public Works Protection Act and was never debated in legislature.
According to a provincial spokesperson, the regulation stemmed from an
"extraordinary request" made by Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair, who
requested additional powers shortly after learning the G20 was coming
to Toronto. The regulation took effect Monday and will be
revoked June 28, the day after the summit. The law appeared on the
province's e-Law website last week, but won't be officially published
until July 3. "It's just unbelievable you would have this
kind of abuse of power, where the cabinet can create this offence
without having it debated in the legislature," said an incredulous
Howard Morton, the lawyer representing Dave Vasey, who was arrested
under the regulation yesterday. According to the new regulation, "guards" appointed under the act can arrest anyone who attempts to enter the security zone. If
someone is found within five metres of the perimeter, police can ask
them to identify themselves or be searched -- if they refuse, they face
arrest. Anyone convicted could face up to two months in jail or a $500
maximum fine. "It reminds me a little bit of the War Measures
Act," said Nathalie Des Rosiers, a lawyer with the Canadian Civil
Liberties Association.' What do you think? Is this a reasonable measure given the potential security threat? Are you offended by the violation of Canadian civil liberties?
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
By the way... If Obama is an American citizen why does his grandmother say he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii? Why does he have no record of ever attending Columbia university? Why is there no record of a doctor being present at his birth? This is not an anti-black or anti-democrat tirade. I just find it tragically absurd that an investigation hasn't been launched to determine why there's no real birth certificate and why his supposed former teachers state that they've never taught a student named Barack H. Obama. Save your "birthers" and "teabaggers" for CNN. These are real legitimate questions.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | July 03, 2010 at 10:51 PM
Wow. Apparently most previous writers have never travelled or lived abroad. And have certainly never lived in China, Russia, Saudia Arabia or loads of other police state countries. Otherwise you would know better. Quit whining, get on your knees and thank the sperm gods that you were born in Canada.
Posted by: John | July 02, 2010 at 02:13 PM
Are you totally tripping, Alan?? Jail time?? I can't see that realistically happening, can you?? Seriously.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | July 02, 2010 at 10:43 AM
Turns out the 5 metre rule never existed resulting in at least one well publicized wrongful arrest. The act itself has never been the issue, its always been about designating a zone outside a public work and doing that in secret. Turns out we were correct in objecting to the underhanded way this was presented. The police lied about their authority to demand ID and search. I can see huge problem for Chief Blair premier MGuinty and his cabinet. Huge legal problems that may even result in jail time if it is shown that they willfully misled the public and displayed a gross misuse of authority
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 30, 2010 at 12:26 PM
OK firstly the Public Works Protection Act has existed for quite some time so it is not new legislation. Secondly all one need to do is read section
1(c) any other building, place or work designated a public work by the Lieutenant Governor in Council. (“ouvrage public”) R.S.O. 1990, c. P.55, s. 1.
and then section 3 (a), (b) , (c)
Powers of guard or peace officer
3.A guard or peace officer,
(a) may require any person entering or attempting to enter any public work or any approach thereto to furnish his or her name and address, to identify himself or herself and to state the purpose for which he or she desires to enter the public work, in writing or otherwise;
(b) may search, without warrant, any person entering or attempting to enter a public work or a vehicle in the charge or under the control of any such person or which has recently been or is suspected of having been in the charge or under the control of any such person or in which any such person is a passenger; and
(c) may refuse permission to any person to enter a public work and use such force as is necessary to prevent any such person from so entering. R.S.O. 1990, c. P.55, s. 3.
It is all there and has been all along. The "Lieutenant Governor in Council" (WHAT IS THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR-IN-COUNCIL?
When the Ontario Premier and the provincial Cabinet make a decision and it has been approved by the Lieutenant Governor, it is said to have been made by the Lieutenant Governor-in-Council.) simply designated a "place" for a period of time to be included as an area under its protection.
Look at what happened to properties that had nothing to do with this event. Store windows smashed and vehicles damaged. The police vehicles that were burned. Had the people responsible managed to get to the centre of the Summit area what would the out come have been.
....and people wonder what there was a heavy security presence......
Posted by: Archangel66692 | June 30, 2010 at 10:25 AM
most of the police should play the same game as the ones who are threatening to take the police to court,..the protesters seem to have a problem of not listening when being advised by the police to stand back, now people are crying like babies because the police had to use aggresive actions, i mean, get real if you were faced with 100's of angry people who disregarded the authority of police or even troops we may as well not have any protection and just leave it to mob rule, absolutely a disgrace, and certainly not the least bit dignified.
Posted by: jeanette mcmanus | June 30, 2010 at 02:02 AM
I agreed with most you posted until this:
"Barack H. Obama is not an American citizen."
(First of all most Canadians say US citizen)
He isn't a Central/South American citizen but he IS a North American citizen.
This is a "real conspiracy", that Obama is not a US citizen, brought on by the Birthers and the Tea Baggers.
Posted by: Stench | June 29, 2010 at 09:39 PM
I really hope you are serious about quitting the nonsense you are spewing but I really doubt it
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 29, 2010 at 08:09 PM
If you're unable to see the parallels between a document from 50 years ago and our current political climate, I guess I'm wasting my time. The people who gave Iran nuclear status are the same one's who do so for Cuba. That's a fact. This entire "War on Terror" is an excuse to advance global government and secondly a proxy war. I guess I'll stop trying to help dinosaurs from trusting their government so much. Long live the empire, can't wait to pay my carbon taxes to the global government.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 29, 2010 at 01:36 PM
Whatever man, I guess yea, it's cool to cause fake terrorism if you perceive a threat. Good to know that's where you stand. Thanks for at least reading the document.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 29, 2010 at 12:56 PM
BTW I live in the city, take the bus, worked 35 years in a factory and don't own a crackberry but instead got my first no frills cell about 6 months ago for emergency use only. Boy you got everything wrong except the fact I'm white and that was a crap shoot
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 29, 2010 at 10:49 AM
No I'm well adjusted and don't let a 50 year old report from a foreign nation under threat of nuclear missile cloud my judgement. IMO paranoia isn't normal. Thats what you are writing. Pure unsubstantiated paranoia thats good for a laugh. I'm having trouble staying on the chair
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM
I got more for you... Barack H. Obama is not an American citizen and never attended Columbia University. He'll be assassinated soon enough just like JFK with the intention of causing African-American unrest and allowing for a police-state crackdown, martial law even. I can see why you want to believe it's all nonsense Allan. It shakes the core of your happy little white-boy suburbs existence and means we would actually have to confront something rather than gas up our cars, drive home from the office, and watch reality television. It is pretty scary, especially for those who would rather hide in their blackberry and upload photos of their friends to facebook. The future is now and this is very real.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 29, 2010 at 10:24 AM
"Apparently, 'conspiracy stuff' is now shorthand for unspeakable truth."— Gore Vidal, from "The Enemy Within", 27 Oct 2002
Posted by: Stench | June 29, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Yikes What a pile of garbage
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 29, 2010 at 09:32 AM
Read the document Allan, page 11 is particularly interesting.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
They talk about making fake riots.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 29, 2010 at 08:33 AM
Wow some people really need help. The conspiracy theories being written here are beyond comprehension to a sane person
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 28, 2010 at 10:16 PM
I totally agree with Michelle's summary of Ian's values. He seems to be of the phony libertarian stock who talks about the constitution but goes feet to shoulders for the Liberal/Conservative police state while the constitution and Charter of Rights and Freedoms is being shred before our very eyes. That is not freedom, amigo.
Norman: Did you not see the photos from the summit in Quebec? The ones where the "anarchists" are being "arrested" and have the very same boots and gloves as the QPP's riot squad? Then they mystically didn't show up on the arrest list at the end of the day. Did you not find it strange like Rick has also mentioned that cops sat back and allowed a police cruiser to be burnt to the ground without making the slightest effort to arrest the "anarchists" doing these actions. They even announced that they would have a pressurized water cannon in that EXACT vicinity which failed to show up. That wasn't an accident Norman. Just like the fertilizer scare in Niagara. These things were planned and perpetrated for the very purpose of creating a climate of fear. It's not just Canada that does this stuff. It's the entire globalist regime, pretty much spearheaded by folks in the CFR, Trilateral Commission, and Bilderberg Group. It's a protocol for each place the summits are held... Create a climate of fear and then reap the benefits. Same behaviour was planned in the 1960's against Cuba. The Pentagon plotted to blow up their own airliners over Cuban airspace, launch heavy artillery at their own boats in Cuban waters and have fake Cuban terrorist groups cause havoc in the U.S. Lee Harvey Oswald was actually apart of this fake terrorist group. The worst part is that these documents are now declassified and available on the internet. It was called Operation Northwoods and it set the tone for the future of provocateur false-flag black-ops.
Here's a link to PDF of the documents; So you can read for yourself about how the Pentagon in conjunction with the U.S. federal government plotted to kill their own soliders and citizens to advance their goals in the Caribbean.
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
This is not tin-foil insanity. I'm sad to say it IS reality friend. And if you can't look at hard evidence and scratch your head and wonder why CTV correspondents were arrested and not those smashing windows and burning vehicles, then I'd say you might very well be the right type of person to be carrying out such false flag attacks for the New World Order and globalists. Sign up for the nwo and change your name to Stormtrooper Norman and I'll build an antenna for my foil hat. I think the next time the globalists come to town, I will attend the protest with some friends and a couple dozen pairs of handcuffs so we can perform a citizen's arrest on these "anarchists" seeing as the police and government are not interested in allowing a peaceful protest to exist. This was the last straw.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 28, 2010 at 07:12 PM
Bartly, couldn't we just use magic markers? Not quite as messy.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | June 28, 2010 at 08:45 AM
So we had our biggest city shut-down for a weekend, our civil liberties suspended in backrooms, and shelled out $1.1 billion for security which couldn't even prevent a glorified hockey riot from breaking out. Are we supposed to believe they would have fared better against actual armed terrorists?
We would have been better off paying to board up every business in downtown in advance.
Posted by: Joe | June 28, 2010 at 12:31 AM
You echo my thoughts exactly "GIVE ME LIBERTY". Very well said.
I think Canada's Wonderland has you empty your pockets as a safety measure. That's how I have taken it anyway. They don't want objects flying through the air on one of those rides.
Posted by: Stench | June 27, 2010 at 11:17 PM
GIVE ME LIBERTY
No disrespect, friend, but you need to change your tinfoil hat. Maybe some new antenna, too.
Posted by: storminnorman | June 27, 2010 at 10:15 PM
These laws should be on the books for use at any time, without hesitation or need for discussion. They're there to protect us.
Ever see Quentin Tarantino's "Inglorious Bastards" ? As far as I'm concerned, the crowds should overpower these black block jerks and carve their logo into their foreheads so that when they take off their masks and try to blend into a crowd, we'll still know who they are.
Posted by: Bartly | June 27, 2010 at 05:44 PM
From the sounds of some of the comments here, democracy and civil rights in this country are on their death bed.
Never mind the few thugs who caused all the problems. The vast majority of protesters were peaceful and expressed themselves in a peaceful manner.
Why is it that the police did not respond to Black bloc protesters when they started the violence. They stood back and watched as they vandalized and looted. None or very few people from that group were arrested.
After all of the looting and violence of yesterday afternoon the police were feeling the heat so they went out and illegally detained and imprisoned people just walking down the street. One of those people was a CTV producer who was doing his job.
How many of those arrested have actually been charged with anything. Probably very few. The last I knew, detaining and imprisoning a person without charge was illegal in this country.
If one persons civil rights are violated then all of our civil rights have been violated. Shame on the government for allowing this to happen and shame on all of you sheep supporting these actions.
Posted by: Mike Russell | June 27, 2010 at 05:31 PM
Ian: so you call yourself a libertarian, which is a right side of the different levels of anarchism. One does have to research political views.
I do not know but it my estimation, I do not think that most liberatrians would just want to fall into line, of the state. Show your papers, show your ID.
I have gone into police stations to ask questons and never have I been asked to show ID.
You are not about freedom.
Posted by: Michelle Hruschka | June 27, 2010 at 05:26 PM
I don't have a problem with the law on the books that requires identification and consent to search to enter public buildings such as courthouses. What I find disturbing is that the area OUTSIDE the security zone was designated effectively making it legal to search anyone on the street. It was totally ineffective and unnecessary to do this IMO. The fact that the designated area was not published or posted is where the problem lies. Effectively this means that any area could be designated in the future without notice. A slippery slope indeed. The sad fact is the law would have actually been more effective if people knew about it. It worrisome and stupid all at the same time
Posted by: Allan Taylor | June 27, 2010 at 03:00 PM
on saluting the police from peel,halton, montreal, rcmp, and other areas very professionaly done and not one busted head, the troublemakers went home and hid under thier beds sucking thier thumbs, naughty,naughty! ha ha
Posted by: jeanette mcmanus | June 27, 2010 at 02:22 PM
Yeah dude, the problem with going thru a metal detector and emptying your pockets at Canada's Wonderland is that it's an invasion on our rights. We here supposedly have the presumption of innocence but more and more we're seeing the opposite. These kind of procedures should be reserved for airports, government buildings, and prisons. NOT CANADA'S WONDERLAND!!! It makes innocent people feel like criminals and despite all the safety measures at the airport, people still bomb planes and do hijackings so I don't buy into the idea that such screening makes us much safer at all. Same goes for people busted with child porn on their computers. There seems to be ALOT of arrests for this lately and I don't doubt that the majority are guilty but I also know that spambots and malware can infect people's computers and store illegal documents there without their knowledge. When someone is arrested by the police for child porn, their presumption of innocence seems to be thrown out the window and the public damnation goes full steam ahead. BTW, McGuinty is a total shill like Harper, don't forget these two puppets solidified HST for us. How do you think Harper is going to cut our deficit like he called for? By not taxing us? We will see I suppose.
Posted by: HARPER + MCGUINTY = HST POLICE STATE SOCIALISM | June 27, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Just as I had predicted... The black masked "anarchists" came out AGAIN. Big dudes with bandanas setting stuff on fire and causing havoc. And true to form, "they slipped into the crowd and removed their clothes, police were unable to make any arrests." FOR THE LAST TIME, THIS IS A POLICE-PAID PROVOCATION GROUP DESIGNED TO LAUNCH THE RIOT ACT INTO BEING READ. They don't want the media to see a peaceful protest. They don't want the media to see ANY protest. So they make it violent and disperse everyone. Congrats to Toronto Police for false flag terrorism, burning your own police car was quite the show. Who cares though, you'll just turn to the taxpayers to replace it. Until next time, see you again "Black Bloc" aka Toronto Police Services.
Posted by: GIVE ME LIBERTY | June 27, 2010 at 12:51 PM
what annoyed me was the crowd there were all under 25 years old and probably never paid taxes in thier life. and another thing,... why were people taking photographs of the police cars that were on fire and laughing there stupid heads off? ... i dont think giving the media the finger makes the trouble makers look intelligent, hope the parents are really proud....but our taxes will be going through the roof after trashing the city, hope mummy and daddy think you are worth it.....DUHH.
Posted by: jeanette mcmanus | June 27, 2010 at 11:54 AM
I'm for these temporary laws that protect us, the everyday tax payers, voters and thankful citizens of a country that our peoples have fought and died for over the years. We live in a country where we can run for office and be elected to effect change if that is what the majority of people want. If the minority of people want to effect change then get a platform that the majority will agree to, not just try to sway opinion with criminal acts. As far as I'm concerned, more powers to the govenrment should be granted during times of civil disobedience. If I had information that my neighbour was responsible for crimes against others, I would definately speak to the authorities and present my case. The maximum penalties should go to these criminals if the evidence presented proves their guilt. It is a shame that these few take away the peaceful message that was trying to be communicated by so many.
Posted by: Brad Cantelo | June 27, 2010 at 11:20 AM
I was watching a bit of the protests last night and heard that apparently, the Prime Minister only gave the City of Toronto 3 months to prepare...he apparently refused to deal with the issue of security during the G20 summit.
What a whacky guy we have leading our country.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | June 27, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Protesters and provocateurs
Black Bloc should not be allowed to cover their faces. I would agree to a law where anyone covered up would be arrested.
This "new" secret bill is in affect until June 28 I believe. It is unconstitutional IMO and I hope lawyers look into it.
Ahhh, the Taliban. Quick, hide under your bed, they're coming, rushing in on their camels! Hide, be very afraid! (Clue: You won't have to hide if we and our neighbour stop occupying other countries)
Posted by: Stench | June 27, 2010 at 09:23 AM
I'm a libertarian and I have no problem with this. The public was notified ahead of time that they must provide ID before they enter, just like an airplane, just like the police station, just like many office buildings. Don't like it, don't go there. PERIOD!!!
Posted by: Ian | June 26, 2010 at 11:48 PM
the summit should have been held in the big hotel that mulrooney and his rich buddy had a cosy lunch at! the only people who will make a wee bit of a profit will be the camera stores after all the thrill seekers hand in thier photos to be developed.
Posted by: jeanette mcmanus | June 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM
this government is making a mockery of our laws and our parliament!It is disgusting that it can pass bills and close down parliament without debate.
In my opinion an idiot would have known that this mess in Toronto would happen.The summit would have got just as much publicity (and a better kind)in some beautiful remote location. Then maybe it would have cost a lot but not as much as this unimaginable bill that will eventually surface from all this rioting. Of course who cares if the taxpayer or the struggling small business person will go bankrupt? The big shots do not have to worry about where the next meal comes from.
And anyway why are we spending billions to plead for help for the poor?
Why didn't we just give them the billions we are wasting so rich people can have a sleepover?
With the technology we have today the world leaders could have a conference by closed circuit telephone.
Posted by: vicki MacDonald | June 26, 2010 at 10:18 PM
The government really dropped the ball on this one. First of all, I have no issue with there being security at the G20. I mean, I think the whole event is a huge waste of time and money, but it's happening, and security is obviously a requirement. What I don't get is why our civil liberties have to be on the line for it. If someone is smashing windows, arrest them. If someone is throwing rocks at the cops, beat them down and throw them in jail. It's pretty basic and I don't think we need rules giving the police extra powers (such as being allowed to demand ID or a search should you happen to wander too close to the fences) in order to keep the peace. I mean, the law obviously doesn't seem to be helping much, in any case, considering how things are going today.
That said, there's another important issue here that needs to be looked at, and that's the fact that if the government didn't think they were doing something wrong, they wouldn't have done everything in their power to pass these additional laws in secret. If they have nothing to hide, they should be willing to do this all in the open, with media attention, like any other law. Hell, chances are "if you've got nothing to hide, you won't mind a search" was part of their reasoning for passing these laws to start with. So why the secrecy? "Trying to avoid backlash from the left" isn't an excuse, by the way. Government transparency is there for a reason, and if it's a good law, potential backlash shouldn't matter anyway because it's the government's job to convince us that their legislation is good. If we don't like it, we have the right to speak out against it and potentially vote the people who passed it out of office. It's kinda the whole basis of our democracy, or have we forgotten that in our modern age?
Posted by: Tyler Rubini | June 26, 2010 at 07:43 PM
Amen Jamie! Gas and hose all those protesters and troublemakers then throw them in jail. If they're from outside Canada, send them packing then blacklist them to make sure they can never come back.
Posted by: Peter Michael | June 26, 2010 at 05:16 PM
Jamie I've got a place for YOU to live, it's called China. Go there. The rest of us will try and keep Canada a free country.
Posted by: Stinger503 | June 26, 2010 at 01:36 PM
The money has been spent, the law passed. STOP BITCHING! They are only trying to protect the world leaders. All you that continuously cry about how this country is turning into a police state should pack up & leave.
Posted by: Jamie | June 26, 2010 at 08:33 AM
Give your head a shake:
I am not lost and the idea of being checked for going into an amusement park is ridiculous. I would not go to such an establishment.
I have only been in an airplane once in my life back in 1976 I believe it was. I doubt I would be flying anywhere in the near future. Travel by horse and buggy, that sounds very nice, it would cause less pollution.
The only place I have been asked to have my purse searched is going into the courthouse, which I found to be acceptable, since there are criminals in a court house.
You afraid to post your name.
Posted by: Michelle Hruschka | June 25, 2010 at 09:50 PM
GiveYourHeadAShake: Your right, we should also have cameras installed in our houses to make sure we're not doing anything bad too. It's a matter of fact all Canadians are terrorists, so it's best that the police check us for weapons and know who we are at all times. God forbid we walk around freely like a...you know, FREE society.
I'm sure all the police officers will have their name and badge numbers displayed? (Including the uncover provocateurs? Fat chance)
Posted by: Stinger503 | June 25, 2010 at 09:47 PM
While I am concerned with how secretly this bill was passed, I understand why it was.
If someone is hanging around the G20 area and refuse to give their name to police - that is shady and they probably have something to hide.
I get why people think this bill takes away rights, but I would never refuse to give my name to the police anyway. I'm not sure why anyone would do that. I actually kind of assumed that was against the law in the first place.
The bill itself isn't a problem with me. My problem is the way the bill was passed.
Posted by: Mandy | June 25, 2010 at 05:34 PM
If you think for one minute, that the Police didn't know who this "man" was, you are very naive. They have had specific training in identifying suspects, including photos of previous trouble makers.He wanted to get arrested, otherwise he simply would have left the zone without having to show ID or be searched.
Posted by: Brian Palmer | June 25, 2010 at 04:46 PM
Michelle: If you do not see anything wrong with being checked for weapons or other obvious at entrances to various public places I'd say your lost. Upset when you have to go through security at an airport too or do you travel by horse and carriage?
Posted by: GiveYourHeadAShake | June 25, 2010 at 04:19 PM
Who benefits from the summit? Torontonians, with the city shut down, tourism turned off, downtown merchants closed or not selling? Canadian taxpayers who pay the bill? Commuters who can't get to work? Canada's image, with TV shots of an armed camp being beamed around the world?
How about the Harper government, no-longer-Conservative, now nanny state and raises taxes. And we are paying for their good fortune.
Posted by: Allan Boom | June 25, 2010 at 01:01 PM
I believe the security is needed because Professional Agitators warn us of their damage and destruction. This is not a protest. If the protestors wish to destroy something thwen burn down your own homes, destroy your computers, cars, bicycles, and personal belongings, and then we will see if they are true to their word.
I still say to have a system where protestors post a Peace Bond of $50,000.00 dollars and receive a numbered vest. Now protest freely, but if you turn violent then the bond is cashed in. Foreign destroyers should receive a lifetime ban for travel to Canada, and that's it.
Don't hide behind laws.
And to the local groups who disrupt and Strike. "Thanks for showing the world that we in Southern Ontario are a bunch of Backwater Hayseeds who cannot function under normal procedures. Instead of promoting Toronto they have turned it into a total circus. The only one missing is Sid Ryan."
Posted by: ED2 | June 25, 2010 at 12:14 PM
Point is there would be no need for any of this extreme marshal law if not for the self-serving summit. It costs a billion and delivers precisely nothing. Tourism? Check out downtown Toronto. The Americans have an advisory against coming to Canada because of the summits and security risks and slowdowns. This is all about Harper's amibitions and we pay the bill, and by the way, don't worry about losing your guaranteed civil rights.
Posted by: Hank | June 25, 2010 at 11:18 AM
I don't understand how anyone could think that this is a good law or even legal for that matter.
Any law that is passed secretly without debate raises serious questions about the rights of citizens in this country. As far as I know we live in a free and democratic country. In a free and democratic country there should be no need for secrecy in passing laws, unless the government knows they are doing something illegal.
A law such as this is an invitation to police to violate the rights of citizens. Why should someone walking down the street have to submit to what amounts to an illegal search and siezure under the charter, at the whim of a police officer.
This law is going to end up costing us the taxpayers millions in legal fees and lawsuits when all is said and done. The law is clearly illegal and unconstitutional.
Posted by: Mike Russell | June 25, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Exactly Nate. Except that it's not only the trouble makers that have a problem with this, it's those that like conflict and complain about their 'civil liberties'. Oh wait, those people ARE troublemakers too...
Posted by: Peter Michael | June 25, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Sounds like a good idea to me, heck, they should implement that in Hamilton malls and downtown.
If you have no reason to be in an area and are loitering around, police SHOULD ask for ID and ask what you're doing in the area.
If you've got nothing to hide you've got nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Peter Michael | June 25, 2010 at 11:03 AM
In case anyone has forgotten we are still in a war with the taliban and other terrorist organisations, hence the reason for the "extraordinary measures" to protect the world leaders at the summit.
Once the summit is over everyone can resume their heads in the sand posture.
Posted by: Dave | June 25, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Nate: That is pretty drastic to have to go through a search just to get into an amusement park and if you do not see anything wrong with this, then I would say, you are already lost.
Posted by: Michelle Hruschka | June 25, 2010 at 10:19 AM
So, it's fine for Stephen harper to take over our largest city so he can look good in photos with the other leaders? And we should sit down and shut up?
Sheep.
Posted by: Stormin norman | June 25, 2010 at 09:22 AM
I dont understand what the big deal is. I had to go through a metal detector and empty my pockets at canadas wonderland the other day.NO big deal. The only people that would have a problem with this is trouble makers. I really dont understand why anyone would be down there in the firstplace. protesting doesn't really acomplishanything. Just makes them look like fools.
Posted by: nate borges | June 25, 2010 at 09:12 AM
In view of all of this BS that's costing us Canadians un-necessairy millions of dollars as usual, why don't they just declare "Martial Law" and be done with it...! or would it be to simple...?
Rick
Posted by: Richard Edwards | June 25, 2010 at 09:03 AM
We no longer live in a democratic society, when our own elected members of the legislature could not debated and discussed this.
Posted by: Michelle Hruschka | June 25, 2010 at 09:02 AM
Yes, Robbie and "the face" but these are extraordinary circumstances.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | June 25, 2010 at 08:47 AM
We are slowing inching our way to becoming a total police state. The police enjoy having these extraordinary powers and are being bought by the politicians to enforce these extra measures. This is how Kim Jong Il maintains his power in North Korea.
Posted by: Robbie | June 25, 2010 at 08:27 AM
I'm offended but not surprised. Canada has become somewhat of a police state ever since Harper and McGuinty were elected, and individual liberties have slowly eroded to the point that police and government officials are mostly untouchable despite their conduct today. Two-tiered policing like we've seen in Caledonia by the OPP, for example, is now the rule of thumb, where police are not bound by the Rule of Law but by the discretion of corrupt politicians with their own agendas.
As an aside, did anyone see that ridiculous buffoon Julian Fantino, alias SuperCop, chasing down protestors in his fancy OPP motorboat up in Huntsville? What a joke!
Posted by: the face | June 25, 2010 at 08:12 AM