Questioning local health networks

The provincial ombudsman says Local Health Integration Networks (LHINs) have been having "illegal" meetings and therefore decisions taken by LHINs could be subject to judicial review. What do you think?

Comments

[Ed2]

Combine the eHealth Scandal and new insurance legislation and we are all doomed into a self reliant method of taking care of our problems.

Committee's and studies do not produce a better system. They however do waste billions quite nicely and we have accepted it much to the delight of those who grab the cash and walk away.

[ernest]

@kevin .How dare you invoke the laws physics and other scientific truths to belittle government say so!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Zorro]

Well did you expect really "Openness And Honesty" from MuckGuiLty and his "Gang"??
This Guy puts Machiavelli to shame with his Lies and Underhandedness whilst "Pilfering" the Public Purse to "Buy" votes from the less "Savory" segments of Society!
He has "Placed" his most Sycophantic Disciples in
"Lucrative" positions which NONE of them are qualified for, and encouraged them to "GUT" the Health System (Like he did with his "Boyfriend" who fled the E-Health Billion Dollar Fiasco Loss and has Resurfaced as a Mayoral Candidate for Toronto) and NOT BE AT ALL ANSWERABLE to US!
Add this to his list of "Criminality" with the $1000 Yr Heath Tax,H.S.T. ,
New Taxes disguised as a "FEE" Increased "HYDRO costs and "Time Of Use Metering", To pay for his Penchant To Fund "Pie In The Sky" Windfarms,not to forget the "Eco Fee" Currently withdrawn temporarily but still funded by The Taxpayer whereby "YOU" pay for the "Disposal" of the Wrapping,Container and Contents of Products Produced by his Corporate "Friends" who have already been "Rewarded" by lower Taxes YOU are now paying!
He obviously holds you in CONTEMPT because HE thinks like SHEEP you will REWARD him with another Term in Office -Will YOU????

[Kevin]

By the existence of tobacco smoke, we have to assume all particulate is similarly electrically charged, otherwise it would exist only as cigarette goo, because all particles would join together rapidly and form a solid object.

Like charges repel whereas opposites attract. polarization would align a set of dissimilar charges and the result would become a solid almost immediately.
So the only thing they are not attaching to, is themselves.

Now;
Picture a large game of pong with trillions of particulate balls traveling in random directions with a surface property most commonly understood to be sticky.
You inject the pong balls into a room and let them do their thing. Low and behold the much smaller biological critters also floating in the room are very quickly collected and attached to our pong defenders.

How difficult is the concept to understand?

With the realization that the particulate found in cigarette smoke is much too large to pass freely into the bloodstream by inhalation, and the vast majority is attached to solid objects beyond the possibility of inhalation, the very small inhaled portion of the particulate, becomes attached to phlegm which keeps your lungs protected and moist and the combination is eventually expelled from the lungs by coughing, having no or entirely limited physical effect on those who inhale it.

The many years we have seen a consistent reduction of smoking prevalence, we have also seen a huge increase of a majority of so called "smoking related diseases" as well as many that are not related to smoking, in particular a marked increase of communicable diseases in our hospitals. Foreign biologicals are traveling to new regions in significant numbers, while consistently blamed on an increase in air travel. But never really mentioned as a possible unintended circumstance, of banning smoking on all international air flights.

Are the so called "experts" really so dim witted they never considered what should be obvious?
Or are they so well controlled they dare not mention that the emperor has no clothes?


Common sense among the "experts" is like a foreign language, none of them; will, or will be allowed to learn.

Einstein once refuted the existence of second hand smoking backed by one of his theories. Likely referring to the Bose-Einstein Condensate. Pretty complex stuff involving the manipulations of atomic direction. Which by today's standards shows how far we have evolved technologically and suddenly we stopped and traveled backward at minimum fifty - sixty years.

A shock wave, when observing how far beyond the word ancient, the public health and anti smoker advocates crowd [with their host of "new discoveries" of late, agenda manufactured, to illicit doom and gloom] really are, in the promotions of their special brand of divisive sciences.

"Second hand smoke" was an invention of Nazi propaganda, prior to invention of the micro-chip which opened the floodgates to observations and calculation tasks never before possible.

And just how much did anyone learn in the interim?

Now we have the emergence of "third hand smoke"? So far existing only in the minds of the sales teams, revealing the mindset behind all of this rubbish.

Science is being stalled and dumbed down deliberately, by public health ideological controls. With some very out of place notions that don't fit well within current perspectives.
Beliefs that they absolutely refuse to relinquish "for the common good", or as we have all seen; for their own good.

[Kathy Hagan]

Yes a complete review and investigation of all LHIN business is in order. Transparency does not seem to be the norm anymore in many government decisions.
Scrap the LHIN and start over, accountability should be priority here.

[gabbi]

did the e-health scandel not teach our politicians anything.....good God!!!

[Rob]

speaking of shams, lets hope Marin also audits the SHS cartel. SHS is NOT a significant health risk worth spending billions on...

Fighting Back
http://fightingback.homestead.com/

"Wood Smoke vs. Cigarette Smoke

Although many people associate tobacco smoke with certain health risks, research indicates that second hand wood smoke has potentially even greater ability to damage health. A comparison between tobacco smoke and wood smoke using electron spin resonance revealed quite startling results (Rozenberg 2001, Wood Smoke is More Damaging than Tobacco Smoke).

Tobacco smoke causes damage in the body for approximately 30 seconds after it is inhaled. Wood smoke, however, continues to be chemically active and cause damage to cells in the body for up to 20 minutes, or 40 times longer.

Some of the components in wood smoke are free radicals, which steal electrons from the body, leaving cells unstable or injured. Some of these cells may die, while others may be altered and take on different functions. These changes lead to inflammation, which causes stress on the body. EPA researchers suggest that the lifetime cancer risk from wood stove emissions may be 12 times greater than the lifetime cancer risk from exposure to an equal amount of cigarette smoke. (Rozenberg 2001, What’s in Wood Smoke and Other Emissions)."

Tobacco Smoke vs. Wood Smoke
http://des.nh.gov/organization/divisions/air/cb/ceps/npsap/smoke.htm

The various main stream media have been repeatedly failing society at taking the political trash to the curb and we have noticed as they do in greatly reduced profit margins!! Canada now requires a political enema of all levels of all parties all across this once great nation. Canada no longer strong or free....

[ernest]

Sounds and looks like a scam to me.Here's a solution.Tell the LHIN's to hand over 100 million dollars to each municipality,after the cheques have cleared say we lied and we are sorry .

[Anita]

Of course there needs to be a review! At this point, everything deserves scrutiny. We currently have a healthcare system that is so flawed that even the doctors are frustrated because they cannot treat patients within a reasonable length of time. Patients wait 5 to ten days for emergency surgery because of restrictive quotas. 4 hour waits are normal in follow up clinics, average trips to emergency require you to pack and meal, although the official publicized wait time is touted to be 4 hours!

At this point, there does not appear to be a solution in site.

While the executive of LHIN do not appear to be suffering in any way shape or form, they endanger the lives of our citizens. LHINs policies and restrictions will soon be the cause of an exodus of highly competent health care professionals....going to places where patients can actually be treated in a timely manner.

[Jackie]

In view of Marin's report, looks like the province needs to review the LHINs and their decisions. They have high opinions of themselves which are not shared by the rest of us.

[Bob]

As an employee of the former Hamilton Psycvhiatric Hospital we knew the "fix" was in the moment the "Health Destruction Taskforce" Began its work. Speaking with staff of regional hospitals around Hamilton I was aware that they DID NOT have any channel to express their concerns. The LHIN continue to operate as if they control all health care in the area and answer to no one. There is no transperancy and they enter discussions with the plan foremost and dodge input, criticism, and accountability for the income. The whole LHIN organization is a sham.